~2017 NFL Thread~

[CatsbyAZ]

Giants suck so bad

[Mdot21]

Stafford deserves a better team.

the OL is missing two starters. One of them is one of the best young LT's in the entire league in Taylor Decker. They get Wagner and Decker back that will certainly help a struggling OL out a ton. I also blame a lot of the OL struggles on the play-calling. Trying to run the ball against the #1 defense in the NFL with a small RB? They were running into run blitzes all game. They need to spread it out and play tempo more and get rid of the ball quickly. Theo Riddick is a match-up nightmare out of the backfield. You saw that in the 4th QTR when they stopped being stupid, ran tempo and got the ball out quickly to their mismatches in space. Riddick and Tate are just nightmarish to deal with in space in the quick passing game.

They need to cut Eric Ebron tonight. He is trash. Send a message to the rest of that team. Not fond of their head coach at all- he's a bum if I ever saw a bum, but that roster is oh so close. This is the best Lions team I've seen in a long time. If they could draft Barkley somehow and cut or trade Abdullah I'd be on cloud 9.

[Mdot21]

everyone freaking out over Brady's age, predicting when he'll fall off the cliff- they forgot to realize that Big Ben was getting up there, going on 36 years of age. Roethlisberger looks like he's free falling off that cliff. He looks like he's deteriorating right before our eyes. Steelers probably should've taken a different QB in the 2017 draft than Josh Dobbs.....

Ben was quoted after the game saying "Maybe I just don't have it anymore."  - YIKES......think this is his last year??

[Mdot21]

on a side note- looks like spending big money in free agency on DL's Malik Jackson and Calais Campbell and having all of those high draft picks over the last few years being all used on defense leads to an insanely athletic defense for the Jags. That's a team that has a really nice roster. Everywhere except QB that is. Bet they wish they had that #3 pick in 2014 to do all over again.

[ELA]

Steelers are a mess, I think Tomlin is done after this year.  Oddly Chiefs look like easily the best team in the AFC right now

[ELA]

Jesus, does anybody but State Farm reps still like Aaron Rodgers?  He makes Tom Brady look as tough as Mike Webster.

[Mdot21]

Jesus, does anybody but State Farm reps still like Aaron Rodgers?  He makes Tom Brady look as tough as Mike Webster.

I like him as a player- have to- he's incredible. Aside from Dan Marino- I think he's the best pure thrower of the football that I've ever seen.

Can't really stand him otherwise though. Seems like the ultimate whiner, finger-pointing "me" QB. A few of his former teammates didn't have the greatest of things to say about him after they left. Jennings, Driver, and Finley all talked about his personality rubbing people the wrong way.

Say what you want about Brady- but that's not him by any stretch of the imagination. He takes less money to stay in New England, he's a team guy all the way. You won't ever see a former teammate have a bad word to say about Brady.

[Mdot21]

Steelers are a mess, I think Tomlin is done after this year.  Oddly Chiefs look like easily the best team in the AFC right now

Think you're right. I'd bet Ben retires and Tomlin is dismissed.

Chiefs have the best roster in football with a healthy Eric Berry. Reid is a wizard at finding offensive talent. Who knew Kareem Hunt would be this good? Or Travis Kelce. Or Tyreek Hill. 3rd round, 3rd round, 5th round pick.

Kelce is the best TE in the league. Gronk's days as that are over. Hill might be the most explosive, fastest guy in the NFL. Hunt has been a huge surprise.

[Mdot21]

Dallas effed up. Left too much time on the clock for Rodgers. 1:13 left and GB has a timeout.

Dak has played excellent this game. Why they don't run that read option more with him is beyond me. Especially with a back like Zeke. You KNOW defenses are going to bite on a handoff to Zeke 90% of the time. That pick 6 wasn't his fault. Hit Williams right in the hands, went right through his hands into a DB that was 5 yards behind him. 

[Mdot21]

Dallas effed up. Left too much time on the clock for Rodgers. 1:13 left and GB has a timeout.

Welp. Called it.

Lewis had a great break-up on a badly thrown ball by Rodgers. Very next play Rodgers throws a perfect back shoulder fade for TD. Can't defend the perfect throw. Nobody throws it better than Rodgers.

[ELA]

I like him as a player- have to- he's incredible. Aside from Dan Marino- I think he's the best pure thrower of the football that I've ever seen.

Can't really stand him otherwise though. Seems like the ultimate whiner, finger-pointing "me" QB. A few of his former teammates didn't have the greatest of things to say about him after they left. Jennings, Driver, and Finley all talked about his personality rubbing people the wrong way.

Say what you want about Brady- but that's not him by any stretch of the imagination. He takes less money to stay in New England, he's a team guy all the way. You won't ever see a former teammate have a bad word to say about Brady.

Yeah, there's no denying he's a hell of a QB, but he is the epitome of the dislikable diva QB

[Mdot21]

Holy shit. 

Mercilus was already in the locker room getting x-rays and then JJ Watt had to get helped off the field and heading into the locker room- not even 8 mins into this game. That's two of their 3 best players on defense. 

Not to mention the 'roid head Cushing whose suspended for most of the year for another failed PED test. They have so much high level talent on defense. Just can't all get it together on the field at the same time. 

Clowney missed most of '14 and '15 with injuries, finally playing like an elite player and he doesn't get to be paired up with Watt. What a shame. 

[ELA]

Watt needs to retire, his body is failing him and he's not going to be upright by the time he's 40.  It's a shame.

[Mdot21]

Watt needs to retire, his body is failing him and he's not going to be upright by the time he's 40.  It's a shame.

Yeah, total shame. He's the greatest defensive player of his era and one of the greats of all-time. Gronk should probably retire too. It's painful to watch players of their caliber break down physically like this. They both deserve more. As a fan you want to be able to watch them perform at the highest level.