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Topic: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~

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847badgerfan

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #406 on: December 09, 2017, 01:41:38 PM »
UW laying an egg against Marquette today.

Trice and King are injured and out for this game. Can't afford that, but oh well.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #407 on: December 09, 2017, 02:46:33 PM »
UW laying an egg against Marquette today.

Trice and King are injured and out for this game. Can't afford that, but oh well.
Didn't see that coming.   I know Marq goes as the 3 shot goes, but man.

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #408 on: December 09, 2017, 03:06:56 PM »
They were falling for MU today, that's for sure. As for UW...

The NCAA streak that sits at 19 years is over, unless they win the Big Ten tournament. That is the 6th longest streak in NCAA history, and ranks 4th currently, behind Kansas (28) Dook (22) and MSU (20).

I still think they have a shot of the "4th place or higher" streak this year though. I think the team will gel over the next month and be pretty decent, plus, the conference is not good.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #409 on: December 10, 2017, 09:14:13 AM »
Now that basketball season is concluded, are we ready for a thread on Big Ten baseball?
yes,
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #410 on: December 10, 2017, 01:39:25 PM »
MSU closed strong to win going away, but that was a 5 point game with about 12 to go.

Perimeter defense is still a mess, even though the interior defense is historically good.  I think I saw they've now held four opponents to below 25% shooting on 2s, and no other team in the nation has done it more than once.  But Southern Utah was like 11-21 from 3 at one point.  And it wasn't one of those games where they were just hitting bad shots, they were good looks.

Eventually MSU just sold out on running them off the line and leaving their bigs on islands to block shots.  They did.  But they can't trust them to do that against better teams.

Granted the way the Big Ten looks, I'm not sure how many good teams they'll play.  Purdue might be it?  Minnesota, Maryland and Michigan look like tourney teams, but not top 25 type teams.

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #411 on: December 10, 2017, 02:10:23 PM »
UW laying an egg against Marquette today.

Trice and King are injured and out for this game. Can't afford that, but oh well.
Trice will have foot surgery tomorrow and miss 4 weeks at a minimum. Kobe King has a knee problem and is out indefinitely (to me that is code that he is done for the season).

Davison will move to the point now and Pritzl will return as the starter at SG. A freshman walk on burned his shirt yesterday too, to add more guards to the mix.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #412 on: December 10, 2017, 04:13:45 PM »
So ASU basketball just left Allen Fieldhouse in Lawrence... with a WIN.

Bobby F*@#ing Hurley.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #413 on: December 10, 2017, 05:44:12 PM »
So ASU basketball just left Allen Fieldhouse in Lawrence... with a WIN.

Bobby F*@#ing Hurley.
Word order matters.
F*** Bobby Hurley.
But if he beats Kansas, he's cool with me

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #414 on: December 10, 2017, 05:59:30 PM »
That's not exactly the word I used, although it does still work when placed first.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #415 on: December 10, 2017, 09:55:08 PM »
West Virginia won a weird game against Pitt last night.  First off, I forgot how fun it is to beat Pitt, but I digress.  Anyway, WVU won 69-60 in a game that Pitt had 31 FT attempts to WVU's 9.  How many games has a team won where they were outshot by more than 20 FT attempts?  Can't be many.  

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #416 on: December 11, 2017, 10:19:14 AM »
My Buckeyes are improbably sitting atop the B1G at 2-0 (tied with PU and MSU) and Holtmann may well be the leading candidate for COTY at this point.  

It is hard to tell how this season will go and right now we really aren't learning much.  As I see it, the next eight games do not give us much opportunity to assess this team:
  • v ApSt, 12/16
  • v Citadel, 12/19
  • v UNC, 12/23 (neutral site in NOLA)
  • v Miami (OH), 12/30
  • @ Iowa, 1/4
  • v MSU, 1/7
  • v UMD, 1/11
  • @ RU, 1/14

As I see it, the Buckeyes should win 1-3, 5, and 8 even if they aren't very good.  Losing one of those would raise alarms but winning all of them proves basically nothing.  Similarly, the Buckeyes should lose 4, 6, and 7 even if they are pretty good.  Winning one of those would be nice and losing all of them doesn't prove that Ohio State is terrible.  

The Buckeyes are currently 8-3/2-0 so if things go as I predicted, after the Rutgers game they will be 13-8/4-2.  Then the Buckeyes head to NU.  That is the game I am looking forward too right now because that is one that could go either way.  

As I look ahead at Ohio State's schedule and try to make predictions I get that the Buckeyes should finish roughly somewhere between 17-14 and 20-11.  

As I see it, if the Buckeyes get to MSG at 17-14 they'll need to win the B1G to go to the Dance.  If they get there at 20-11 then they'll possibly be a bubble team that could get in with a win or two.  Games like the game at Northwestern on January 17 will likely be the difference between those two things.  

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #417 on: December 11, 2017, 11:45:47 AM »
Trice will have foot surgery tomorrow and miss 4 weeks at a minimum. Kobe King has a knee problem and is out indefinitely (to me that is code that he is done for the season).
Update..

Both are done for the season.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #418 on: December 11, 2017, 12:17:34 PM »

It is hard to tell how this season will go and right now we really aren't learning much.  As I see it, the next eight games do not give us much opportunity to assess this team:
  • v ApSt, 12/16
  • v Citadel, 12/19
  • v UNC, 12/23 (neutral site in NOLA)
  • v Miami (OH), 12/30
  • @ Iowa, 1/4
  • v MSU, 1/7
  • v UMD, 1/11
  • @ RU, 1/14

As I see it, the Buckeyes should win 1-3, 5, and 8 even if they aren't very good.  Losing one of those would raise alarms but winning all of them proves basically nothing.  Similarly, the Buckeyes should lose 4, 6, and 7 even if they are pretty good.  



I think you might have mixed something up there, unless you really believe that OSU will beat North Carolina but lose to Miami (OH).

Second, I learned a loooooooooong long time ago that you don't look ahead on a schedule and start planning for March in December.  There will be games you win that you don't expect and games you lose that make you need to run out an buy a new universal remote and 50" flatscreen.

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #419 on: December 11, 2017, 01:26:39 PM »
Update..

Both are done for the season.
Medical redshirt for King in what is looking like a lost season may be a blessing in disguise down the road.  Not that you ever want to see a kid hurt.

 

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