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Topic: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~

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847badgerfan

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #392 on: December 07, 2017, 10:33:50 AM »
My only concern right now is seeing this team hopefully round into form. The talent is there and it is now in place. Saturday's game against OSU forced major changes - changes that were due to be made. They were just made sooner than the coach would have liked. Like, by a year, or so.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #393 on: December 07, 2017, 03:02:57 PM »
Apparently BOTH Ball brothers (the younger ones) have now signed with an agent.

I get Liangelo, but why cut off any possibility of LaMelo ever being able to step foot on a college campus?

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #394 on: December 07, 2017, 03:51:29 PM »
Apparently BOTH Ball brothers (the younger ones) have now signed with an agent.

I get Liangelo, but why cut off any possibility of LaMelo ever being able to step foot on a college campus?
My understanding was that there was a significant question about his eligibility already due to something in the family's deal with a shoe company (might have been Nike but I can't remember for sure).  If he wasn't likely to be eligible anyway, then signing with an agent is a non-issue.  

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« Reply #395 on: December 07, 2017, 04:48:56 PM »
Correct, his shoe had already launched and there were substantial questions there.

The bigger question is how a shoe with the name of a 16 year old HS player on it sells

I'm at the point where I truly feel sorry for his kids.  The marketing of it has jumped the shark, and any argument that the show he's created is beneficial is gone.  

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« Reply #396 on: December 07, 2017, 08:19:37 PM »
Correct, his shoe had already launched and there were substantial questions there.

The bigger question is how a shoe with the name of a 16 year old HS player on it sells

I'm at the point where I truly feel sorry for his kids.  The marketing of it has jumped the shark, and any argument that the show he's created is beneficial is gone.  
It would suck to be a Dad that gets old and his own kids hate him. It's gonna happen.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #397 on: December 07, 2017, 08:46:24 PM »
Other than crowd shots, I don't think I've ever seen Mr. Zeller, and he had 3 kids go to the NBA,  two of which lottery picks.

Or Mrs. Molina, the mother of 3 major league catchers.
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« Reply #398 on: December 07, 2017, 09:33:11 PM »
Mr. MH,

You get it. Having met your family, I'm confident in saying so.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #399 on: December 07, 2017, 11:17:43 PM »
The Indiana game was encouraging, along with the first half of the Ohio State game, and then they choked, of course. With a 4-day break and a Noon start against UCLA, which has its own issues (and has to travel east), I think they get the win on Saturday, before going to Texas, which will probably be a loss, before finishing non-con play with some easy wins.

Brooks is clearly the best PG, so I don't understand why Simpson continues to get major minutes, especially in the second half. He's a better defender, but the offense stagnates when he's in. Simmons had some decent plays in his limited time at OSU, so I don't understand why he isn't the backup despite some of his defensive struggles...... Robinson has been off for whatever reason and doesn't do anything to make up for it, but unfortunately Livers isn't ready to play major minutes yet. Meanwhile, Matthews was awful against OSU, too, so even putting at the 4-position at times isn't necessarily the solution.... Watson continues to get some backup minutes over Poole for no apparent reason, too.

Much like the football team, it's clear that this is a transitional year. They should still be able to get into the tournament but probably as one of the last teams in. The upside is that next year the team should be pretty good, especially if Wagner and Matthews both return (which actually appears more likely than not, now).
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #400 on: December 08, 2017, 01:22:55 AM »
Now that basketball season is concluded, are we ready for a thread on Big Ten baseball?

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #401 on: December 08, 2017, 08:27:21 AM »
Now that basketball season is concluded, are we ready for a thread on Big Ten baseball?
Well, other than naming Fran's replacement?
He's been here how long now?  7 years?  8 years?  I think he's hit his ceiling.  An upgrade over Lick, but nowhere near what Iowa hoops was in the 80s and much of the 90s.
It's time to move on, but Barta isn't likely to pull the trigger.  TBH, it's time to pull the trigger on the AD more than anything.  He's possibly the worst in the P5.

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« Reply #402 on: December 08, 2017, 08:58:10 AM »
Well, other than naming Fran's replacement?
He's been here how long now?  7 years?  8 years?  I think he's hit his ceiling.  An upgrade over Lick, but nowhere near what Iowa hoops was in the 80s and much of the 90s.
It's time to move on, but Barta isn't likely to pull the trigger.  TBH, it's time to pull the trigger on the AD more than anything.  He's possibly the worst in the P5.
Get Jeff Long.
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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #403 on: December 08, 2017, 09:06:36 AM »
Yeah, I'm panicked. I think Temple is pretty solid, but you need to come up with some dang wins.

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #404 on: December 08, 2017, 09:11:38 AM »
Yeah, I'm panicked. I think Temple is pretty solid, but you need to come up with some dang wins.
Don't step off pal. Lots of season left. Improvement is showing.

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Re: ~2017-18 Big Ten Basketball Thread~
« Reply #405 on: December 08, 2017, 10:06:57 AM »
Well, other than naming Fran's replacement?
He's been here how long now?  7 years?  8 years?  I think he's hit his ceiling.  An upgrade over Lick, but nowhere near what Iowa hoops was in the 80s and much of the 90s.
It's time to move on, but Barta isn't likely to pull the trigger.  TBH, it's time to pull the trigger on the AD more than anything.  He's possibly the worst in the P5.
Everybody is entitled to a bad year once in a while.
Iowa basketball was a strong program for much of the 1940s, 50s, 60s, half of the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Fran brought it back from dead. But there is still a ways to go. I don't know how it went from good to dead, to somewhat better than mediocre. Iowa never used to have to compete recruiting against UNI in recruiting. Now UNI snags good players. Since Wisconsin built the Kohl Center, we compete for players with Wisconsin.
I am not ready to throw in towel on McCaffrey for one bad season, although he hasn't really had a great season yet, either.

 

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