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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2025, 09:36:53 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 18, 2025, 08:12:14 PM
Rose
Orange
Sugar
Cotton
Fiesta
Peach
Citrus
Holiday
Outback
Gator
....and maybe the Sun, because of its longevity.

Bowls don't matter just as you're saying - they're infinite.  More of something makes it less special.
Having only top-25 caliber teams playing in bowls is best.  All together now:  EXCLUSIVITY!!!




11 bowls is 22 teams, and that's "exclusive," but a playoff with 12 teams is over-saturation? 

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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2025, 02:21:16 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 18, 2025, 09:36:53 PM

11 bowls is 22 teams, and that's "exclusive," but a playoff with 12 teams is over-saturation?
11 bowls = 11 games total.  Not sure how many total games we'll have with the playoff but it's more than 11.  
Not only that, but out of those 11 games, it's their only shot.  
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #58 on: November 19, 2025, 02:31:51 PM »
"We" will still watch some of that Poulan Weedeater/Papa John's Bowl in Boise on blue turf in mid December.....
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #59 on: November 19, 2025, 02:45:31 PM »
Stepping back a few posts, I am reminded of my 8-team conference idea of not that long ago. Look how logical it all seems:
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2025, 02:47:59 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on November 19, 2025, 02:21:16 PM
11 bowls = 11 games total.  Not sure how many total games we'll have with the playoff but it's more than 11. 
Not only that, but out of those 11 games, it's their only shot. 
It's not more than 11. 

4 in the opening round + 4 in the quarterfinals + 2 in the Semifinals +1 in the Final = 11. 

Same number of games, ten fewer teams. 
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2025, 07:58:07 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 18, 2025, 09:36:53 PM

11 bowls is 22 teams, and that's "exclusive," but a playoff with 12 teams is over-saturation?


You're comparing apples to volkswagons here.

I'm going to let you figure it out, out of respect.
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2025, 08:06:28 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 18, 2025, 08:31:34 PM
we now know, the reason wasn't worthy teams and unfairness - it's was and always was about $$$

93, 94, 97 wasn't about an objective national champion in my mind, it was about matching the best opponents to produce the best game.
93 isn't on everyone else's radar as it is with Nebraska fans.

Everyone harps on ND getting the shaft, not UNL.  

FSU was the "best"/most talented/known commodity.....and ND was the team who beat them.  Nebraska, pre-1994, was slow old, same old Nebraska in most people's eyes.  The Huskers didn't have a very strong schedule, nor did they have a top-shelf defense.  
The end of the game vs FSU was weird, for sure.  And they played better than anyone thought they would.  But their plight in '93 isn't shared as a notable event, by and large.


In '94, we the people were screwed out of a great game.  Thanks Big Ten!!!

Same in '97, I guess.  I think Nebraska would have won.  UM's strength was pass D.  Doesn't do a lot of good vs the option.




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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2025, 09:35:32 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on November 18, 2025, 10:45:21 AM
I've never been very impressed with the SWC as a whole.  I've stated several times that my CFB "timeline" started in 1996.  I knew almost nothing about it before then, and remember the internet was very much in it's infancy in 1996 so it's not like you had all the video and other things that you can instantly pull up or reference.  I didn't even really understand that A&M was in a new conference in 1996, I just knew we were in the Big 12 and that's about all I knew. 

But later on, in the following years, I learned a lot from on-line sources like this about the SWC and it's past.  I started looking into the members.  Rice, SMU, Baylor, UH, UT, A&M, Texas Tech (who I believe wasn't even a member until the 1970's).  Arkansas had already been gone for years by this point.  I'm sure I forgot a few schools, but it was very clear that nobody wanted the leftovers.  In fact, the only reason Tech and Baylor got an invite to the Big 12 was politics, nobody gave two shits about the rest.  TCU is the school I forgot about, but they pretty much had the best result out of all the former SWC schools, but it's my understanding that they either have a losing record in Big 12 play or very near .500.  Nobody truly believes they were that good in the 4 team playoff when they somehow beat Michigan and ended up getting smoked by Georgia but dems da breaks sometimes.

Rice should be Div II really.
SMU-absolutely horrible for decades, only school ever given the death penalty.  Some success now but who knows how long it will last.  Coach will be poached any day.
Baylor-horrible for decades, only got good when they hired a sex predator enabler as the HC.
Texas Tech-about the only school with any promise across the board, never won the Big 12 in 30 years.
TCU-losing record or near .500 in Big 12 play, very successful as a "conference wanderer" from 1996-2012.
Arkansas-never won the SEC in 35 years of play and never will. 
Texas obviously very successful at times
A&M-I wish they'd put us in DII :)
UH-I forgot about them too.  Nobody gives a shit, not even their fans. 
 
this does not impress you.  ('94 standings!)  Rice gets a share in the 5 way tie!
1994 Southwest Conference football standings

• v
Conf.
Overall
Team
W
L
T
W
L
T
No. 8 Texas A&M
Texas A&M *
6
0
1
10
0
1
No. 25 Texas +
4
3
0
8
4
0
Baylor +
4
3
0
7
5
0
TCU +
4
3
0
7
5
0
Texas Tech +
4
3
0
6
6
0
Rice +
4
3
0
5
6
0
Houston
1
6
0
1
10
0
SMU
0
6
1
1
9
1
+ – Conference co-champions
* – ineligible for championship and postseason due to NCAA sanctions

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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2025, 09:55:32 PM »
Houston was formidable in the late 70s, plus their 89/90 run with Ware and the first Klingler. 
Rice always sucked, but had an AA RB Trevor Cobb in the early 90s.
Idk about TCU, but it was funny that in Athlon's 1994 Preseason Mag, instead of Wurffel, Manning, or a dozen other AA QBs they could have chosen, they went with TCU's Max Knake.  The stats from 1993 weren't great, his team wasn't good.....just a rogue wave whiff by those folks.*
Baylor had an AA LB in the early 80s with big bug-eyes.  Not much else.
But yeah, since the 60s, the conference was mostly fodder for Texas, Arkansas, and A&M alternating at the top.  And don't forget the early 80s SMU teams!  I wonder if the punishment was worth the crime.


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*Knake was good in '94, but TCU went 7-5 and he benefitted from having a 1500 yard rusher.
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2025, 10:27:56 PM »
I find it funny that they excluded UTEP when every other Texas team was in that conference. 
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2025, 11:36:23 PM »
Well El Paso is probably closer to Phoenix than it is to Dallas *checks* ......and it is......by 200 miles!
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2025, 11:50:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 19, 2025, 11:36:23 PM
Well El Paso is probably closer to Phoenix than it is to Dallas *checks* ......and it is......by 200 miles!
how cute.  an era where geography influenced conference structures.
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2025, 01:07:10 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 19, 2025, 11:36:23 PM
Well El Paso is probably closer to Phoenix than it is to Dallas *checks* ......and it is......by 200 miles!

You either have a statewide conference or you don't. They were THIS CLOSE, but they were like "nah, we'll take Arkansas instead." 
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Re: Your Ideal Individual Season Structure
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2025, 07:47:09 AM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on November 19, 2025, 02:45:31 PM
Stepping back a few posts, I am reminded of my 8-team conference idea of not that long ago. Look how logical it all seems:

Any conference for me would have to include all of the original charters of the Western Conference, sans Chicago.

So, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue and Wisconsin. Add two more. Iowa? Ohio State? Iowa and Indiana were the next two after the charters, in 1899.

Leave the Big 8 as it was in 1995.
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