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Why should a person who gets a name change be held responsible for the actions of or debts accrued by their former name?

What if they announce that they no longer identify as that former person?

What if they undergo a gender change and aren't even really the same person?

94 did you fall out of the Hindenberg?

Russia confirms casualties in Ukraine for the 1st time : NPR

If this photo is reasonably informative, Russia is taking a beating.

It appears they are paying a high price to achieve their objective- given what is in this photo and others - and what we now know to be happening economically to Russia’s own citizens.

But if you look at that map you posted upthread, and numerous other ones I have seen elsewhere, it also appears they are SLOWLY achieving that objective. Russian history tells us that they are more than willing to pay heavily to earn what they consider victory.  Call them the weakling at the gym all you want- they typically don’t just go away.

And that’s what makes this tragedy even scarier, at least to me. How extreme will this apparently unstable leader go to win, and If pressed against the wall by others- how will he react.  And worse/ if he wins his objective in the long run with little resistance on the battlefield- how emboldened will he then be. 

I will hope for a better end- but this has so much potential for a grave new direction. 

this is just stage 1

after Russia takes the cities stage 2 will start

which is the insurgency

It appears they are paying a high price to achieve their objective- given what is in this photo and others - and what we now know to be happening economically to Russia’s own citizens.

But if you look at that map you posted upthread, and numerous other ones I have seen elsewhere, it also appears they are SLOWLY achieving that objective. Russian history tells us that they are more than willing to pay heavily to earn what they consider victory.  Call them the weakling at the gym all you want- they typically don’t just go away.

And that’s what makes this tragedy even scarier, at least to me. How extreme will this apparently unstable leader go to win, and If pressed against the wall by others- how will he react.  And worse/ if he wins his objective in the long run with little resistance on the battlefield- how emboldened will he then be. 

I will hope for a better end- but this has so much potential for a grave new direction. 

For sure, HB.  Russia's leaders have always been willing to sacrifice-- and murder-- their own people, in the name of whatever their political ambitions of the moment might have been.  It's deeply saddening.

Certainly raises the key issue. We have invaded several countries to alleviate our security concerns, arguably with a lot flimsier pretexts compared to what Russia has done. You can say, hey, that's politics or irrelevant or whatever you like, but it still happened and perhaps exacerbates the situation, where Russia doesn't see any success diplomatically and therefore sees military force as the only solution.

You know, I was pretty much raised in the Republican tradition. Hence, I grew up thinking that the government was bad at most things, but that on matters of law & order, and international relations / protecting the homeland, that was where the government excelled.

I became a libertarian, officially, when I realized they're shite at that too. I can't see how those invasions actually helped, you know, protecting the homeland. 

All that is irrelevant to Putin and Ukraine, though. Putin wanted to control Ukraine, a sovereign nation, to stop them from doing things he didn't want them to do, that would insulate them from his control. So he invaded. 

For sure, HB.  Russia's leaders have always been willing to sacrifice-- and murder-- their own people, in the name of whatever their political ambitions of the moment might have been.  It's deeply saddening.

Not sure Gorbachev,Chernenko or even Khruschev (after Stalin) purged much if anyone

My money's on the redneck in the deep south.  From what I've seen, he'll be WAY better armed than anyone involved with Russia's military.

As long as he knows who he's looking for.Good luck to him on delivering the shipment