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Mdot21

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #252 on: March 01, 2022, 05:08:25 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 01, 2022, 05:06:33 PM
Could be...


Honestly I don't see how he can sell it at all.  Kinda defeats the purpose of "freezing" an asset, if you allow the owner to benefit in any way from the sale.  He can probably hide the sale of some yachts and dachas here and there, things he's purchased through shell companies.  But you can't really hide the sale of Chelsea FC from the British government.

And no buyer would risk the money if the government calls into question the legitimacy of the sale.

I'd say that any news of "selling" Chelsea is wishful thinking on ol' Romie's part.
don't rule out exceptions, UK gov't might allow him to sell just because they want someone else to own it. 
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #253 on: March 01, 2022, 05:16:48 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 01, 2022, 05:09:07 PM
or the longer this goes on the more Ukrainians die and the more the country gets wrecked. could see it turn into a failed state like Syria or Libya if it goes on for years.

take it from her....she's got expert experience in this...


https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1498658078232920069?s=20&t=l4UI7jTmPq8a_5bZzSLMnQ
no way Russia could allow this to go on for years in fact at the present rate even 1 month seems unlikely
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #254 on: March 01, 2022, 05:17:28 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 01, 2022, 05:16:48 PM
no way Russia could allow this to go on for years in fact at the present rate even 1 month seems unlikely
hope you're right. 
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #255 on: March 01, 2022, 05:18:21 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 01, 2022, 05:16:48 PM
no way Russia could allow this to go on for years in fact at the present rate even 1 month seems unlikely
The market despot can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent Ukraine can stand...
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« Reply #256 on: March 01, 2022, 05:19:02 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on March 01, 2022, 05:18:21 PM
The market despot can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent Ukraine can stand...
if allowed to
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« Reply #257 on: March 01, 2022, 05:21:57 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 01, 2022, 05:19:02 PM
if allowed to
True... A fish can only swim against the school for so long... But a fish who is known for poisoning opponents with polonium-210 generally gets a wider berth than most.
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #258 on: March 01, 2022, 05:26:12 PM »
Apple stopping all sales in Russia and all shipments to Russia.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-says-it-has-stopped-all-product-sales-in-russia-11646169327?mod=e2tw

It's a good PR move but realistically, it's not like they'll be able to convert any sales in Russia into realized gains in the USA anyway, while monetary sanctions are in place.

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #259 on: March 01, 2022, 05:31:53 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 01, 2022, 05:26:12 PM
Apple stopping all sales in Russia and all shipments to Russia.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-says-it-has-stopped-all-product-sales-in-russia-11646169327?mod=e2tw

It's a good PR move but realistically, it's not like they'll be able to convert any sales in Russia into realized gains in the USA anyway, while monetary sanctions are in place.


mildly surprised thrers no pushback from China
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #260 on: March 01, 2022, 05:32:00 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 01, 2022, 05:19:02 PM
if allowed to
US getting involved leads to WWIII and nuclear exchange. US ain’t getting involved. US lead Ukraine down this path knowing full well they weren’t going to defend them if Russia invaded. 
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« Reply #261 on: March 01, 2022, 05:34:11 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 01, 2022, 05:32:00 PM
US getting involved leads to WWIII and nuclear exchange. US ain’t getting involved. US lead Ukraine down this path knowing full well they weren’t going to defend them if Russia invaded.
I wasnt talking about US involvement
I was thinking of more of a Ford Theater approach
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #262 on: March 01, 2022, 05:37:47 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 01, 2022, 05:31:53 PM
mildly surprised thrers no pushback from China

I'm not sure I understand-- why would China object to Apple curtailing sales in Russia?

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #263 on: March 01, 2022, 05:41:11 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on March 01, 2022, 05:34:11 PM
I wasnt talking about US involvement
I was thinking of more of a Ford Theater approach
Outside of that how was the invasion Mrs Putin?
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #264 on: March 01, 2022, 05:43:19 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 01, 2022, 05:37:47 PM
I'm not sure I understand-- why would China object to Apple curtailing sales in Russia?
If I had to guess it’s bc all of the parts that go into and the subcontractors that actually build Apple’s devices are made in China by slaves (not literal, but not far from) by either wholly owned state backed companies or state backed JV’s. 
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #265 on: March 01, 2022, 05:47:27 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 01, 2022, 05:37:47 PM
I'm not sure I understand-- why would China object to Apple curtailing sales in Russia?


I was thinking that Apple and China do quite a bit of business with each other
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