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Topic: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?

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Cincydawg

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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2018, 03:09:32 PM »
I know that athletes get admitted who otherwise would have no chance, whatever the school (almost).

I think the same may be true for music majors or art majors at times.

HS athletes feel that they can get by in HS because the fix in in, often as not.  Even if they realize belatedly that they need some grades to get into college (and SATs), they can't catch up in two years very well.  So maybe they slide in to some football school and then get sheltered there with tutors and of course a planned pathway of coursework that is easy.

For some reason, when I was at UGA Geology was one of the science courses considered to be easy, and the nickname was "Rocks for Jocks".

We pretty much knew the "crip courses" that could up your GPA with ease.  I took a couple of them.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2018, 03:49:34 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on October 09, 2018, 03:43:18 PM
I really don't think so.  
It’s just a shame to hear a story like that. The guy never had a chance based on your preconceived notions of football players and apparently the school he went to.  It’s disheartening.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2018, 04:09:13 PM »
And before anyone thinks I’m a Pollyanna who has never had a discriminatory thought in my life I can tell you I absolutely have.  In fact, I’ve said before that people don’t have the luxury of getting to know everyone on a personal level so we sometimes have to rely on preconceived notions to guide us through decisions.

But a job interview is a situation where you can get to know someone and ask them questions and learn about their personal experience.  And maybe you did all of that but the way I read your post is you saw he was a football player from particular school and immediately disqualified him as a candidate.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #73 on: October 10, 2018, 04:13:10 PM »
disheartening, but it's the real world out there

if you are the person responsible for hiring good people you use all your resources to be successful

your life experiences and prejudices are part of that

what's worse is people being hired over more skilled and more deserving folks that have a better chance of being a valued employee because of reverse discrimination rules.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2018, 04:20:17 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 10, 2018, 03:09:32 PM
For some reason, when I was at UGA Geology was one of the science courses considered to be easy, and the nickname was "Rocks for Jocks". I took a couple of them.
What ya call it now Stones for old Bones.....I'll show myself out
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2018, 04:36:44 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on October 10, 2018, 04:09:13 PM
And before anyone thinks I’m a Pollyanna who has never had a discriminatory thought in my life I can tell you I absolutely have.  In fact, I’ve said before that people don’t have the luxury of getting to know everyone on a personal level so we sometimes have to rely on preconceived notions to guide us through decisions.

But a job interview is a situation where you can get to know someone and ask them questions and learn about their personal experience.  And maybe you did all of that but the way I read your post is you saw he was a football player from particular school and immediately disqualified him as a candidate.
A couple of points:
First, I intentionally have NOT named the school because I don't want that to be an issue but it really doesn't matter to me.  You said that I saw he was a football player from a "particular school" which made it sound like you were implying that I was picking on THAT school.  I wasn't.  I follow this enough (see the link I posted) to KNOW that LOTS of football players get into virtually all of the P5 schools who wouldn't be able to get into Clown College based solely on their academics.  
Second, the guy in question was, at best, borderline to even get an interview even if I had ignored my well founded skepticism.  I would have looked at it differently if he had been the obvious #1 candidate.  He wasn't.  He was right at the cut-off for getting an interview or not and I didn't give him the interview.  Even if I had, he would have had to really knock our socks off in the interview because everything else about his resume put him well behind the people I did interview.  
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2018, 04:43:06 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on October 10, 2018, 04:36:44 PM
  I follow this enough (see the link I posted) to KNOW that LOTS of football players get into virtually all of the P5 schools who wouldn't be able to get into Clown College based solely on their academics. 
Well Ringling Brothers closed down so that wouldn't be a good career move
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2018, 04:53:41 PM »
Lyle Sankey's rodeo school Located in the dusty prison town of Penrose, Colorado
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2018, 05:09:37 PM »
I wonder if it would be a good idea to go to a school like NC State to play and get to the League quickly.  You'd stand a good shot at starting all three years and standing out, at times against less talented players.

If you go to Bama or OSU, you might not get much PT your first year aside from STs.  On defense, you'd have a better chance of being in the rotation.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2018, 05:10:02 PM »
And of course, you'd need to be somewhere where you could stay academically eligible as well.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2018, 05:11:28 PM »
My niece's husband is a Tech grad and likes to note they all have to take calculus at some point.  Of course, that doesn't apply if you don't graduate.

I'm sure it does limit their ability to attract players, along with having an odd offensive scheme.  
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2018, 05:39:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 10, 2018, 05:11:28 PM
My niece's husband is a Tech grad and likes to note they all have to take calculus at some point.  
bully for them!
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2018, 05:59:25 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on October 10, 2018, 09:59:10 AM
Purdue cheerleaders would be a 7 on Florida's campus, is what I'm saying.
Gotta cite sample size here.  Hell, Oregon's cheerleaders look especially good, but I wouldn't compare Eugene's young ladies against Florida's favorably, overall.  I'm sure the southern campuses may have more visions than a Purdue, but out of ~13,000 ladies on campus, you could find 5,000 that would fit right in any scenic campus.  





Anyway, as I've said before, I could swear UF required a photo attached to all the ladies' applications, considering how hot nearly all of them were.  Add in the diversity of a college campus  - even better.  
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2018, 09:05:30 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 10, 2018, 04:13:10 PM
disheartening, but it's the real world out there



what's worse is people being hired over more skilled and more deserving folks that have a better chance of being a valued employee because of reverse discrimination rules.
Yep, I agree.
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