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Topic: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?

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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2018, 09:18:54 PM »
A degree from Stanford ... Or Duke.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2018, 09:25:18 PM »
A 5* recruit has a realistic shot at the NFL, so his school choice isn't purely academic, guys.  This is plainly a case of "football school" + academics.  
List Duke's 5* recruits from the past bajillion years.  I'll wait.

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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2018, 10:01:26 PM »
What year is it, and what position am I a 5*?   Answer:  I don't care about weather.  That would likely be 10th out of 10 in any decision.   I'm sure I'd target a helmet program, but maybe not.  I'd want a program where my skill set was suitable.  Coaching staff is gonna matter way more than weather, and college town.  Now, if I'm a P/PK, that's anywhere.  If I'm a dual threat QB, then that's more limited.    If I'm a big OL, there's about five places I'd look at, and that would probably be in the north.

I'd have an easy time running off places I'd never go.   
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2018, 10:01:52 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 08, 2018, 09:04:48 PM
It’s interesting because to go to Stanford means you have to be cool with a few things.
-A campus culture that is very much it’s own thing, and can often be pretentious and stuffy
-A place that doesn’t care much about football
-An Nice little town that isn’t exactly college town, is sort of part of a major metro, but not really close enough to be a major part of the lifestyle.
When we see Stanford, we’re saying we want a mild climate, a pretty campus, a team that’s good and a degree that sounds fancy. And that’s fine. But if college experience counts, it’s not quite the slam dunk.

Is it just the current coaches that make Stanford the slam dunk? Or being private? Cal or UCLA are super good schools in gear climates with pretty nice campuses, but they never make the cut.
USC would closely follow. For the alumni network and the weather.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2018, 10:05:37 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 09:25:18 PM
A 5* recruit has a realistic shot at the NFL, so his school choice isn't purely academic, guys.  This is plainly a case of "football school" + academics.  
List Duke's 5* recruits from the past bajillion years.  I'll wait.


Yeah, I definitely think some old man sensibilities are being applied when Stanford and Duke come up.  Those are answers more along the lines of “How would you advise an 18 year old 5* recruit?”
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2018, 11:25:21 PM »
Well, let's see where they have signed (the past 5 years, using 24/7):
23 - Alabama (which no one has suggested by name)
18 - Georgia
14 - USC
11 - Clemson, FSU, Ohio St (tie)
10 - LSU
6 - UCLA, Texas A&M (tie)
5 - Auburn
4 - Penn St, Michigan, Stanford (tie)
3 - Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Ole Miss (tie)
2 - Miami, Tennessee, Virginia
1 - Arkansas, Miss St, Cal, Houston, Oregon, Missouri, Maryland, MSU, Baylor
0 - Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, GA Tech, Notre Dame, Wake Forest, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc......



Strong academic institutions in bold.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2018, 11:32:53 PM by OrangeAfroMan »
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2018, 11:31:06 PM »
And you can spit on the weather thing, but I wouldn't.
Of the 10 most popular spots for 5* kids, 9 of them are south of I-40.  Which means 104 of those 115 uber-talents are in warm weather.  
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2018, 11:38:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 11:25:21 PM
5 - Auburn
4 - Penn St, Michigan, Stanford (tie)
3 - Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Ole Miss (tie)
2 - Miami, Tennessee, Virginia
interesting that Stanford is poo pooed as an old man's recommendation, but Stanford has only one less 5 star than Auburn and equal or more than the remainder of these heavy hitters in the recruiting game
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2018, 11:47:32 PM »
So all the kids going to Alabama, Clemson, or LSU are making a mistake?
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2018, 08:35:23 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 09:18:54 PM
A degree from Stanford ... Or Duke.
Why not Vandy? 
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2018, 08:44:43 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 09, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Why not Vandy?
Vandy is a good school of course but it lacks the star power of Stanford or Duke.
Vandy is perhaps akin to Northwestern or Notre Dame, roughly speaking.  One could throw in UVA and Michigan and Cal as well, or Georgia Tech for example.
But, academics is rarely a primary consideration for 5 star players.  Playing on Sunday IS.  We all understand that the decision will be position dependent.  It's unlikely a 5 star QB would sign at UGA right now, but in another year it becomes much more possible.
If I were a QB, I'd want to go where a pro style offense is played, at a high level, with exposure, and a chance to start by my soph year.  That is one reason UGA signed three 5 star QBs over the past 3 years (if you count Fromm as one).  
A defensive player has more options, like Ohio State, Bama, UGA, etc.  A running back would want to go to "Running back U", whatever that is these days in perception.  Go where they don't pass all the time, duh.
The main goal for most is to play on Sunday after 3 years playing on Saturday.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2018, 08:45:17 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
So all the kids going to Alabama, Clemson, or LSU are making a mistake?
Only if they could get accepted at Stanford, and are interested in a degree.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2018, 09:45:24 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 11:25:21 PM
Well, let's see where they have signed (the past 5 years, using 24/7):
23 - Alabama (which no one has suggested by name)
18 - Georgia
14 - USC
11 - Clemson, FSU, Ohio St (tie)
10 - LSU
6 - UCLA, Texas A&M (tie)
5 - Auburn
4 - Penn St, Michigan, Stanford (tie)
3 - Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Ole Miss (tie)
2 - Miami, Tennessee, Virginia
1 - Arkansas, Miss St, Cal, Houston, Oregon, Missouri, Maryland, MSU, Baylor
0 - Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, GA Tech, Notre Dame, Wake Forest, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Illinois, etc......



Strong academic institutions in bold.
I know it's nitpicking but Iowa did sign 5-star DL A.J. Epenesa a couple of years ago. 
I'm not sure it would be a "strong" school or not.  Ten years ago, I would say "yes", but lately its academic prestige is sinking like a stone.
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Re: You're a 5* recruit. Where do you sign?
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2018, 10:14:28 AM »
I had Iowa with 1 on my paper, just failed to transfer it over.  Sorry.
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