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Topic: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2026, 01:50:18 PM »
True, but I don't know how different this is than the pre-NIL recruiting world in which the Blue Bloods routinely pulled in the 5- and 4-star recruits, while the rest of us developed the 3-stars, and celebrated the occasional higher-level recruiting win (often an in-state/homegrown talent). There's a reason that they are the Blue Bloods, and the rest of us aren't.

BUT...in the olden times we could develop and keep the diamonds in the rough. So a Chris Borland or Jonathan Taylor stays at Wisconsin. Now? Highest bidder, baby.
I think it IS different for two main reasons.  One is the reason that you stated, can a Wisconsin keep those 3* players that they develop into great players or are those guys going to end up on a blue blood roster as JRs/Srs?  

The other is that the Portal allows schools like Ohio State and Michigan to erase/correct their mistakes/misses.  In the old days Ohio State might miss on a couple LBer recruits or maybe have a 5* LBer turn out to be a bust or maybe have a recruit who gets injured and can't play and if you get a few of those things stacked on top of each other at one position pretty soon Ohio State is playing with a significant weakness at LBer.  At the same time maybe Michigan misses on a couple DB recruits or maybe has a 5* DB turn out to be a bust or maybe has a recruit who gets injured and can't play and if you get a few of those things stacked on tope of each other at one position pretty soon Michigan is playing with a significant weakness at DB.  In those cases Ohio State with their weakness at LBer is vulnerable to a powerful running team like some from Wisconsin and Michigan with their weakness at DB is vulnerable to a basketball on grass throwing team like some from Purdue.  

In today's game if Ohio State has a weak LBer room and Michigan has a weak DB room well the Buckeyes and Wolverines will just go spend some cash in the portal and that will be fixed.  

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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2026, 04:51:05 PM »
Say I personally have $20 billion, and like CFB.  I could obviously float the boat myself.  Need a new facility?  Here's $80 million.  NIL?  Here's $30.  Ancillary costs?  Here's another $50.  Oh dear, now I'm only worth $18, and change, a lot of change, but my stocks went up more.


I sure wish Warren Buffett ($145.1B) would like CFB
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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2026, 05:02:16 PM »
I sure wish Warren Buffett ($145.1B) would like CFB
He'd be voted king of Nebraska (yes, an oxymoron, I know) if he donated a ton of money AND required the option to be brought back.
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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2026, 05:35:13 PM »
The answer to the original question is that World War II didn't kill the Gopher program. 

Need I remind you that the Gophers went back to the Rose Bowl the following year after the tOSU faculty voted to decline the Tournament of Roses' invitation. They should have been tied with Ohio State for the title were it not for a phantom roughing-the-passer penalty in the 1961 Axe. The Gophers also tied for another in the fall of 1967. Incidentally, they beat co-tier with Indiana, who then went to the Rose Bowl on the last-to-Pasadena tiebreaker.

Ryan Barland at the Daily Gopher wrote an article in 2017 attempting to answer the question. His synopsis was that the athletic department was awash in red ink and physical plant was ignored during the post-WWII boom, long before Malcom Moos ascended the presidency. 

The Vikings started playing out at Met Stadium in Bloomington in the fall of 1960. It took them a while to get going, but in 1969 they went 12-2, won their first NFL title, and were the victims of what many considered the upset of the century in Super Bowl IV. Couple 3 more Super Bowl appearances in the 70s with terrible play from the Gophers, and it didn't take very long before the bottom had fallen out.

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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2026, 01:41:42 AM »
Probably start with Saban's assistants and go from there.

I'd say Meyer, but.. Fickell.

So Whittingham is going to be a dumpster fire of RichRod/Hoke proportions? 

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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2026, 08:47:39 AM »
I don't think it will be a dumpster fire, but I also don't think it's a home run.
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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2026, 02:20:27 PM »
On an aside, isn't it crazy that a council of faculty representatives had control over Ohio State's postseason? 


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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2026, 02:36:16 PM »
I sure wish Warren Buffett ($145.1B) would like CFB
he prolly does but is not goated into fanboi nonsense. No one handed him 1 million smackers when he turned 18
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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2026, 02:40:59 PM »
I don't think it will be a dumpster fire, but I also don't think it's a home run.
IMHO he's what they need now,steady,solid nose to the grindstone type nothing flashy. And I hope I'm entirely wrong here
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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2026, 09:07:17 AM »
On an aside, isn't it crazy that a council of faculty representatives had control over Ohio State's postseason?


That's how it was back in the day, up until 1980-ish.
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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2026, 09:50:33 AM »
he prolly does but is not goated into fanboi nonsense. No one handed him 1 million smackers when he turned 18
true

he also thinks there are a few other things more important that football
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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2026, 10:20:59 AM »
So, could this happen to some current major program?  We've seen some BBs slip obviously, in recent history.


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Re: WWII killed Minnesota Football, why?
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2026, 10:23:40 AM »
if a west coast program like USC or Oregon could decide to not spend the money because of lack of interest
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