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Topic: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?

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fezzador

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #196 on: October 02, 2018, 08:51:54 AM »
They might still be a 7-5 type program had Schiano not used RU as a stepping stone.

But that's all the program really is.  No respectable coach is going to want to stick around Piscataway, long-term.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #197 on: October 02, 2018, 08:54:47 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 30, 2018, 12:49:36 PM
I always thought Syracuse would be a good B10 addition.
Quote from: fezzador on October 02, 2018, 08:21:27 AM
Heck, Buffalo would be an upgrade over Buttgers.
I am under the impression that feelers were put out to Syracuse, with a resounding "No" as a reply. Syracuse wanted to stay with their Big East Rivals and liked the smaller elite undergrad profile of the ACC over the Large Land Grant research orientation of the B1G.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #198 on: October 02, 2018, 09:45:29 AM »
I don't think Syracuse was ever considered. This thing was about the DC and NYC TV markets, plain and simple, although I always though Maryland made sense, and posted about it 10+ years ago, along with Nebraska making sense.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #199 on: October 02, 2018, 09:49:49 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 02, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
I don't think Syracuse was ever considered. This thing was about the DC and NYC TV markets, plain and simple, although I always though Maryland made sense, and posted about it 10+ years ago, along with Nebraska making sense.
My info came from an OSU Board of Regents member, so I think it was credible to say feelers were put out on Syracuse. I also thought early TV indicators said Syracuse and Rutgers had a decent chance to bring the NYC Market.

I also thought and still think Maryland makes sense. It's not a football homerun, but they meet every other metric.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #200 on: October 02, 2018, 09:53:55 AM »
I always thought Nebraska was the best alternate for Notre Dame in order to get to 12, but thought of them as equally unrealistic. Never thought we'd expand beyond 12. I was afraid we'd get stuck with the Cyclones. 

If I were to hand pick two expansion candidates out of the Northeast, it would have been Syracuse and Pitt. Of course I don't give a crap about TV markets. 

Nevertheless, it is done now. We gained two much needed recruiting hot beds, and we are more competitive Nationally as a result.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #201 on: October 02, 2018, 09:57:14 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 02, 2018, 08:35:54 AM
Does anyone have any idea as to whether the PTBs at Rutgers are interested in Football (and athletics)?

If they are, that could matter, and they might shell out to get a decent coach at some point.  They should be able to be a 7-5 kind of program at some point, I think.
Rutgers is doing EXACTLY what they were brought in to do.  They were obviously invited for the TV money.  They weren't invited to be a 7-5 team.  Having an entire conference of 7-5 teams is not the goal
gonna be a few door mats for PSU, OSU, MU, and Wiscy to wipe their feet on their way to the CFB playoff
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #202 on: October 02, 2018, 03:08:25 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 02, 2018, 08:35:54 AM
Does anyone have any idea as to whether the PTBs at Rutgers are interested in Football (and athletics)?

If they are, that could matter, and they might shell out to get a decent coach at some point.  They should be able to be a 7-5 kind of program at some point, I think.
They'll only do that by displacing some other B1G team down the ladder, and then will some people insist Illinois or Indiana should get booted?
The truth is that 7-5 is a lot to ask of a bottom tier team in a conference that only plays three OOC games.   Even assuming all thee OOC wins, you're still asking that team to go 4-5 in conference.  You're simply not going to have multiple teams at the bottom that are going to be able to pull that off.  Someone's invariably only winning 1 or 2 conference games every year.  That's just the way it works out.
Here's the B1G in-conference results for the past 5 years:
2017: 6 teams 3-6 or worse in-conference
2016: 5 teams 3-6 or worse in-conference
2015: 7 teams 3-5 or worse in-conference (8 game conference schedule)
2014: 7 teams 3-5 or worse in-conference 
2013: 5 teams 3-5 or worse in-conference
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #203 on: October 02, 2018, 03:22:38 PM »
Rutgers has also provided the Big Ten with a lot of bad press (off the field) since it joined. It's been a clown show.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #204 on: October 02, 2018, 03:26:20 PM »
Penn State provided the B1G with a heck of a lot more bad press than Rutgers.

They gonna get booted?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #205 on: October 02, 2018, 03:30:10 PM »
It was pretty close for them, but also completely different scenarios.



Also unrelated.. Baylor. So now what?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #206 on: October 02, 2018, 03:33:28 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 02, 2018, 09:57:14 AM
Rutgers is doing EXACTLY what they were brought in to do.  They were obviously invited for the TV money.  They weren't invited to be a 7-5 team.  Having an entire conference of 7-5 teams is not the goal
gonna be a few door mats for PSU, OSU, MU, and Wiscy to wipe their feet on their way to the CFB playoff
So they are here in order to boost the stats of the B1G East powers, thus increasing the draft stock of their players?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #207 on: October 02, 2018, 04:30:37 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 02, 2018, 08:35:54 AM
Does anyone have any idea as to whether the PTBs at Rutgers are interested in Football (and athletics)?

If they are, that could matter, and they might shell out to get a decent coach at some point.  They should be able to be a 7-5 kind of program at some point, I think.
The thing is that as far as fan interest is concerned, I'm not sure it would matter.  Rutgers has some fans, I saw a bunch at their stadium a few years ago, at their BB arena not long ago, and in NYC for the B1G BB tournament.  Those are the die-hards.  They are showing up and cheering for generally bad teams.  
If Rutgers magically became a CFP contender they would add a whole bunch more fans, but I'm not sure that getting to consistently 7-5 would do much to move the needle for them.  
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #208 on: October 02, 2018, 04:35:04 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on October 02, 2018, 03:26:20 PM
Penn State provided the B1G with a heck of a lot more bad press than Rutgers.
It's a group effort we work together around here
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #209 on: October 02, 2018, 04:35:51 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 02, 2018, 03:30:10 PM
It was pretty close for them, but also completely different scenarios.



Also unrelated.. Baylor. So now what?
Penn St., Rutgers, Maryland, Baylor
doesn't matter, no one is getting booted
money and politics
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