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Topic: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?

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847badgerfan

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2018, 11:38:44 AM »
Florida and Vandy would be good fits. Florida is good for those of us who will be/are living down there in the future/now. Vandy is in Nashville. Enough said.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2018, 04:13:01 PM »
Realistically

Missouri.  

They were begging to get in back in 2010.  
They are a cultural fit.  
They are the only FBS school in a state with 6M people.  
They provide a geographic bridge to Oklahoma and then Texas.  
Decent football and basketball history. Not great. 
Good academics.  Not great, but good enough.
Should have grabbed them in last realignment.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2018, 05:07:36 PM »
Quote from: ELA on September 17, 2018, 10:31:55 AM
Granted it was BCS 6, rather than Power 5, but didn't the Big East kick out Temple for performance?
They did, but the Owls were a football only member. They also brought them back, once the feces hit the fan.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2018, 05:39:05 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on September 17, 2018, 04:13:01 PM
Realistically

Missouri.  

They were begging to get in back in 2010.  
They are a cultural fit.  
They are the only FBS school in a state with 6M people.  
They provide a geographic bridge to Oklahoma and then Texas.  
Decent football and basketball history. Not great.
Good academics.  Not great, but good enough.
Should have grabbed them in last realignment.
I also am in the Mizzou to the Big Ten Camp. But just to offer a counter point:
The last round of expansion focused hard on TV markets and growth rate. And unfortunately for Missouri, they are not growing that fast and "1/2" of their TV market is already in the Big Ten Footprint. They are definitely better than Rutgers in every Metric except for those 2 previously mentioned. 
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2018, 07:26:25 PM »
I don't think it's realistic to think Rutgers would be replaced until the BTN is no longer a viable  basic cable TV channel

could you find a replacement that would bring more TVs and therefore more revenue than Rutgers?  Sure, but Rutgers is bringing in what they were added for.

Now if the Comcast thing had blown up.............?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2018, 11:12:28 PM »
I had Temple in mind with this....

So if Rutgers goes on a run like N'Western did in the late 70s to early 80s, they'd be safely entrenched in the B10 because of the TV deal?  We all know that's a bubble, though.  We're about 2 inches from a la cart TV viewing/monies.  



But hypothetically, if Rutgers were to be given the boot for whatever reason, the B10 would still have Maryland, out there by itself.  Would VT or UVa not pair up with them well?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2018, 11:20:47 PM »
time for my public service message denouncing any form of conference realignment talk, no matter the motives or nobility of the posters.  I think I'd rather debate Pete Rose HOF consideration for 4,256th time.
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2018, 11:21:48 PM »
FWIW, I don't think the next step is a la cart on a channel basis per se, but more of these grouped streaming services.  The Fox Sports streaming service may bring you NFC Football, MLB, Big Ten and Pac XII coverage.

The other forms of TV entertainment are already moving in that direction.  The issue is their ad revenue has dried up due to the lack of targeted demos watching their programming live.  That epidemic hasn't, and for obvious reasons won't hit sports.  The issue is when live sports are the only draw left on cable, that's not enough to support a whole system.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2018, 11:23:11 PM »
Has there been a hierarchical realignment discussion before?  The idea of Texas in the B10 or Florida in the B10 made me think of it.  It's not something I'd ever considered before.


I've seen discussion of a relegation system like in soccer, but between FBS and FCS.  But a top-tier "kings" conference, then the next tier down, and so on.
What would that postseason look like in such a structure?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2018, 11:23:37 PM »
it could take the Feds a couple decades to move 2 inches on a la carte TV viewing

Rutgers was not brought into the conference because of their performance on the field

if Rutgers goes, Maryland would have Penn State to pair up with.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2018, 11:26:29 PM »
An Ohio State would communicate with other, current top-tier schools and make an elite conference - Alabama, Clemson, etc.


But in that case, would an OSU insist on bringing their rival on board, to keep that game 'major', or would differentiating themselves as a "higher up" give them a leg-up on their competition?  Would an OSU bring Michigan with it, and Auburn with Bama, etc, or would they leave them behind?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2018, 11:31:24 PM »
I do love bitching about a topic in which you clicked the thread to view.  Brilliant.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2018, 11:36:31 PM »
I don't have to stay away from it merely because I don't share the enthusiasm for yet another wrinkle to the topic.   What's the internet for anyways except for pot shots, and trolling (cat videos and porn of course)?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2018, 12:45:00 AM »
I am not advocating Big Ten expansion.

The Big Ten would expand if Notre Dame says they are ready to advance.

Notre Dame will be reluctant to come in because it means giving up their traditional rivals, especially Stanford and USC in favor of a 9 to 10-game conference schedule. The thing that will convince Notre Dame is if they don't get into the CFB Playoff, once or twice and have the belief belief P-5 teams are favored by the committee over independents.

If that happens ND has to decide between the ACC and Big Ten. ND might get by with more self-interest in the ACC. But the Big ten is closer, and those minor sports are costly for a small school to maintain.

Geographically Notre Dame fits in either division, but adding a them to the Western Division makes more sense to make that division more competitive. You could realign divisions putting Purdue in the East (with Indiana), and then select Missouri or Iowa State for the West. Obviously Missouri makes more sense to those caring about monetizing the Big Ten. I'd prefer for selfish reasons to get Iowa State off Iowa's nonconference schedule. I wouldn't mind if Iowa State were in the Big Ten. Its enrollment is now larger than Iowa's. Its football and basketball facilities are very good.

With Notre Dame in the west you could also leave Purdue in the West and select an Eastern school.

I think Texas was interested at one time. I think that ship sailed. They sort of are like Notre Dame -- they want to be independent, and in a conference, and in the Big Ten, that just won't work. It is a strong conference; it is not every man for himself.
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