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Topic: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?

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utee94

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #224 on: October 02, 2018, 06:07:06 PM »
there you go, apparently there isn't an actual or legitimate enough reason to kick a school out of a P5 conference.
There's a question....  What would it REALLY take to boot a school?  What was the reason the last five times it has happened?
Someone mentioned... maybe... Temple?  Out of the Big East?  As the last time it happened in a "major" conference?
Even so, I don't think you can draw any realistic parallels between what happened nearly 2 decades ago, to what might happen now.  The massive state institution budgets that are built on the money that the P5 conferences are generating, have made it a far different financial and political landscape than it was even as recently as the late 90s.
And the proof is in the pudding.  If the institutions we're discussing right now, didn't get kicked out for their misdeeds, then I'm not sure it would happen to anyone.

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #225 on: October 02, 2018, 06:14:08 PM »
Urby keeps beating up on the hapless teams, they'll never get to 7 wins with him in the conference
He's not paid to stop tOSU
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #226 on: October 02, 2018, 06:16:14 PM »
94 evidently there is a little tilt with the dirt burglars this Saturday in the Big D
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #227 on: October 02, 2018, 06:37:12 PM »
@bwarbiany :
I was toying around with the map and looked at my own and the surrounding zip codes here in Ohio.  Note here that I live about two hours from campus so this area is not anywhere near close enough to have students living here and even as big as Ohio State is, it doesn't have THAT many alumni (like me) to explain this.  That said, this is what I think of when you say that an area is "dominated" by fans of a particular school:
  • 44256 (Medina):  70% tOSU, 5% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44233 (Hinkley-NE):  70% tOSU, 3% Akron, 2% Kent
  • 44212 (Brunswick-N):  71% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44280 (Valley City-NW):  72% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44044 (Grafton-NW):  73% tOSU, 3% Michigan, 2% Akron
  • 44253 (Litchfield-W):  72% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44275 (Spencer-SW):  72% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44254 (Lodi-SW):  72% tOSU, 4% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44273 (Seville-S):  70% tOSU, 6% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44215 (Chippewa Lake-S):  70% tOSU, 5% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44281 (Wadsworth-SE):  67% tOSU, 10% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44321 (Copley-SE):  63% tOSU, 12% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44333 (Fairlawn-E):  62% tOSU, 13% Akron, 2% Kent
  • 44286 (Richfield-NE):  67% tOSU, 7% Akron, 2% Kent

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #228 on: October 02, 2018, 06:54:15 PM »
@bwarbiany :
I was toying around with the map and looked at my own and the surrounding zip codes here in Ohio.  Note here that I live about two hours from campus so this area is not anywhere near close enough to have students living here and even as big as Ohio State is, it doesn't have THAT many alumni (like me) to explain this.  That said, this is what I think of when you say that an area is "dominated" by fans of a particular school:
  • 44256 (Medina):  70% tOSU, 5% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44233 (Hinkley-NE):  70% tOSU, 3% Akron, 2% Kent
  • 44212 (Brunswick-N):  71% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44280 (Valley City-NW):  72% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44044 (Grafton-NW):  73% tOSU, 3% Michigan, 2% Akron
  • 44253 (Litchfield-W):  72% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44275 (Spencer-SW):  72% tOSU, 3% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44254 (Lodi-SW):  72% tOSU, 4% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44273 (Seville-S):  70% tOSU, 6% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44215 (Chippewa Lake-S):  70% tOSU, 5% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44281 (Wadsworth-SE):  67% tOSU, 10% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44321 (Copley-SE):  63% tOSU, 12% Akron, 3% Michigan
  • 44333 (Fairlawn-E):  62% tOSU, 13% Akron, 2% Kent
  • 44286 (Richfield-NE):  67% tOSU, 7% Akron, 2% Kent

Totally agree. And that's driven by the fact that there really aren't any cities in Ohio that are true "magnet" cities for the surrounding states.
Granted, Ohio has more good-sized cities than Nebraska, but nothing on the order of a Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles, New York, etc. So I would absolutely expect OSU to dominate [per your typical numbers/definition] Ohio, just the way that Nebraska dominates Nebraska.
The major "magnet" metropolitan areas, however, will always be diluted based on the fact that they draw from an entire region, not from a state.

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #229 on: October 02, 2018, 08:54:07 PM »
Of course it was a stupid thread from the beginning.  Hasn't stopped you-- or me-- from clicking it and chiming in.
Preeeeecisely.......
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #230 on: October 02, 2018, 09:01:10 PM »
there you go, apparently there isn't an actual or legitimate enough reason to kick a school out of a P5 conference.
There's a question....  What would it REALLY take to boot a school?  What was the reason the last five times it has happened?
Well another non-deviant, yet realistic reason a school might leave a conference is simply politics, no?
What if the SEC told the Alabama-Auburn-Georgia-Tennessee incestathon to go F- themselves - that they wouldn't play every year and handcuff the rest of the conference any further?  Or what if the B10 added 4 teams and proposed a pod system, but Michigan and OSU were like "NOPE!" 
GA Tech left the SEC due to politics.  South Carolina left the ACC because they felt they were being treated unfairly.
So to change the question - what would it take in 2018 for a school to leave the B10?  Not be kicked out, but to take its ball and go elsewhere?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #231 on: October 02, 2018, 09:55:24 PM »

So to change the question - what would it take in 2018 for a school to leave the B10?  Not be kicked out, but to take its ball and go elsewhere?
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #232 on: October 02, 2018, 09:58:55 PM »
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #233 on: October 03, 2018, 06:46:47 AM »
So to change the question - what would it take in 2018 for a school to leave the B10?  Not be kicked out, but to take its ball and go elsewhere?
Probably a complete collapse of the conference and its academic alliance. 
UChicago left the alliance after the three newbies came in.
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #234 on: October 03, 2018, 07:04:47 AM »
That's right. No one is leaving the Big Ten, e.g., without either:
  • abandoning football (*and* all sports?) altogether, OR
  • having a massive and irreparable non-athletic tiff with the alliance - maybe stemming from research, medicine or ... politics(?)
In other words, we're stuck with Rutger forever.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2018, 09:39:10 AM by Anonymous Coward »

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #235 on: October 03, 2018, 07:10:12 AM »
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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #236 on: October 03, 2018, 08:00:24 AM »
You made your bed.  You lie in it.

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Re: Who would you realistically replace Rutgers with?
« Reply #237 on: October 03, 2018, 08:35:04 AM »
Money would be the primary and ultimate driver in programs changing conferences.  

Any discussion without that has less of a point than pondering how to replace Rutgers.  Money keeps them in, and it would take Mo' Money to drive them out, on both sides.

Money of course keeps ACC teams in tow as well.  

The SEC perhaps is most vulnerable to teams leaving, the later additions anyway.  I don't know if they have any exit penalties.


 

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