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Topic: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?

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rook119

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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2018, 10:39:45 PM »
PSU. 

They have the advantage over Miami because they beat them. OU-PSU might have been a tossup but I don't think OU wins vs. Miami. Miami always demolished the wishbone so I don't think OU would have won. 
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2018, 10:55:52 PM »
I'm gonna bet that Testicleverde isn't throwing 5 INTs in another hypothetical game vs the Canes.
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2018, 04:35:16 PM »
I'd encourage everyone to simply look at the resumes and ignore what happened in the actual bowl games each year.  Otherwise there's no point to the exercise.  
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2018, 04:38:09 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 01, 2018, 04:35:16 PM
I'd encourage everyone to simply look at the resumes and ignore what happened in the actual bowl games each year.  Otherwise there's no point to the exercise.  
I agree the bowl games are irrelevant for seeding, but I think they serve as additional data for who you think would actually win.  Particularly back when the teams didn't necessarily play each other.

I also think people are capable of distinguishing between what actually happened and what they think would happen again.
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2018, 07:02:56 PM »
yup, those bowl games happened
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2018, 07:23:58 PM »
Sigh.
Not if we're pretending it's early December and are given these 4 teams by the playoff committee.  Is this not clear?  Why did you think none of the blurbs included bowl results?!?
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2018, 07:31:42 PM »
dude, ya gotta understand who you're dealing with here

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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2018, 07:39:23 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 01, 2018, 07:23:58 PM
Sigh.
Not if we're pretending it's early December and are given these 4 teams by the playoff committee.  Is this not clear?  Why did you think none of the blurbs included bowl results?!?
That couldn't make less sense.  Who would win?  Ignore data though.  Can we factor in how motivated they would be?  I heard Testaverdes girlfriend dumped him, so Miami would have laid an egg against anyone.
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2018, 07:54:22 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 01, 2018, 07:39:23 PM
That couldn't make less sense.  Who would win?  Ignore data though.  Can we factor in how motivated they would be?  I heard Testaverdes girlfriend dumped him, so Miami would have laid an egg against anyone.
We're looking back.  We're putting ourselves back in that time, predicting what would happen given the knowledge we would have had at that time.  What's wrong with that?
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2018, 08:05:50 PM »
Because I don't get why we would artificially limit our knowledge.  It's not like we are saying that the bowl results have to repeat themselves.  But considering how the bulk of the data points (games against lesser opponents) are useless, I think that removing one of the few relevant data points in creating an opinion as to who would win doesn't make sense to me.  I would pick Miami to beat PSU in a rematch.  I think people are equally capable of evaluating what is an upset vs. what revealed a meaningful result.
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2018, 08:09:49 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 01, 2018, 07:54:22 PM
We're looking back.  We're putting ourselves back in that time, predicting what would happen given the knowledge we would have had at that time.  What's wrong with that?
nuttin wrong with that a tall
if that's the way ya wanna look at it
if that's the case I'd switch my vote to Miami
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2018, 08:45:32 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 01, 2018, 08:09:49 PM
nuttin wrong with that a tall
if that's the way ya wanna look at it
if that's the case I'd switch my vote to Miami
I guess I specified it on the first, 1983 thread only.  I should've posted it at the top of each successive thread.  My bad.
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2018, 08:58:38 PM »
know your audience
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Re: Who would have won the 1986 CFP?
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2018, 09:51:34 PM »
I also think the thread title should be changed too.  You aren't asking who think would win a playoff, you are asking who we would have thought would win a playoff if you had asked us to fill out a bracket back in November of 1986.
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