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Topic: Who Ran the Option?

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Cincydawg

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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2019, 06:44:32 AM »
UGA ran the veer mid-70s, I don't know if you call that "the option".  Andy Johnson at QB had a lot of yardage in 1975.  

We all know of a lot of different kinds of option offenses.  I think many plays today are "option plays" of a type, read option and so forth, but that isn't what you mean.



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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2019, 12:20:34 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 15, 2019, 06:44:32 AM
UGA ran the veer mid-70s, I don't know if you call that "the option".  Andy Johnson at QB had a lot of yardage in 1975. 

We all know of a lot of different kinds of option offenses.  I think many plays today are "option plays" of a type, read option and so forth, but that isn't what you mean.




Veer is a pretty pure form of option. UW ran it the unsuccessful years before Barry.

I’d half bet most teams ran a good bit of option at some point in the sports’ history. The thing is, bad old option teams are just deeply forgettable. Clemson ran some in the Danny Ford days.
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2019, 01:00:29 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 15, 2019, 12:20:34 PM
Veer is a pretty pure form of option. UW ran it the unsuccessful years before Barry.

I’d half bet most teams ran a good bit of option at some point in the sports’ history. The thing is, bad old option teams are just deeply forgettable. Clemson ran some in the Danny Ford days.
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2019, 01:15:25 PM »
I think if you can't recruit well, the Paul Johnson offense is the way to go.

GaTech is going to look a LOT different now, and I suspect a LOT worse.
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2019, 03:26:14 PM »
The veer was just a sprint option, right?  No FB business or pause before the QB runs a sweep, basically?
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2019, 04:15:31 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 15, 2019, 03:26:14 PM
The veer was just a sprint option, right?  No FB business or pause before the QB runs a sweep, basically?
Nope. Veer is pure triple. 

It's interesting because the Veer is in theory a play and an overall offense. Here's the original playbook. 

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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2019, 04:43:16 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 15, 2019, 04:15:31 PM
Nope. Veer is pure triple.

It's interesting because the Veer is in theory a play and an overall offense. Here's the original playbook.


Good thing we have this link, as i think UW did a good job of burning all evidence of the Don Morton era.
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2019, 05:01:47 PM »
I always associated the veer with some of Jim Wacker's teams, and sure enough it turns out he and Don Morton co-authored a book about it:


https://www.amazon.com/Explosive-Veer-Offense-Winning-Football/dp/0132980185

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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2019, 05:21:42 PM »
We might be veering off topic here a bit.





The Veer option is generally regarded as a "triple option". It is designed as a three-back attack with one player taking a dive course, one taking a pitch course and another being a lead blocker on the perimeter of the offensive formation. The QB makes reads on defensive players and then distributes the ball according to the defensive reaction to the offense. 

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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2019, 06:06:59 PM »
Okay, so FB through the B-gap and so on.  Was that before or after the wing-T?
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2019, 06:55:33 PM »
I believe all the service academies, Navy, Army, and Air Force, run the option, and have for years.
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2019, 07:52:01 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 14, 2019, 10:56:56 PM
Just looking at 1971 to now.  Any type of option-heavy offense, in which fumbles were more of an issue.
In the wishbone, the critical point was the "mesh" of the QB and the FB.  That was the first option point, and the QB put the ball into the FB's gut before he made the decision to leave it there or pull it back out.  Compared to the mesh, the pitch to the trailing HB was easy.
I work with a guy who was backup QB at OU during the Troy Aikman/Jamelle Holieway era.  He said that the QBs and FBs worked on the mesh more than any other single thing.
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2019, 08:13:50 PM »
I don't know if they ran the option, but when OSU featured Archie Griffin at Tailback, Corny Green at QB, and Pete Johnson at FB, all three put up pretty good rushing numbers while very little passing was going on. 
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Re: Who Ran the Option?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2019, 08:31:07 PM »
I was a big buckeye fan back in those days
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