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Topic: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2024, 11:18:32 AM »
Bama still has elite talent of course.  They might "decline" to being 10-2 more often than 11-1, maybe.  Over time, the talent edge could weaken.

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2024, 11:47:47 AM »
Bama's rosters the past 7-8 years were unprecedented in the scholarship limits era (based on avg star rating).  
Now with the TP and NIL, I doubt that'll happen again for any individual school.
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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2024, 11:49:39 AM »
Bama's rosters the past 7-8 years were unprecedented in the scholarship limits era (based on avg star rating). 
Now with the TP and NIL, I doubt that'll happen again for any individual school.
agreed. even Kirby at Georgia has basically said as much.

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2024, 11:50:12 AM »
Bama's rosters the past 7-8 years were unprecedented in the scholarship limits era (based on avg star rating). 
Now with the TP and NIL, I doubt that'll happen again for any individual school.
My thoughts are the same. But Bama will have pull in the portal too. Not sure how much they have in the NIL bank though. Are there a lot of wealthy Bama donors?
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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2024, 12:34:17 PM »
My thoughts are the same. But Bama will have pull in the portal too. Not sure how much they have in the NIL bank though. Are there a lot of wealthy Bama donors?
Maybe but overall they're not anywhere close to the top in NIL capability.  It's definitely going to affect their roster in a negative way, but like OAM said, NO single school is going to be able to put together a string of recruiting like that again.  It was a unique period in college football history and all of the stars aligned.


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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2024, 12:36:04 PM »
Not to mention the greatest coach ever.
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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #90 on: August 24, 2024, 12:50:55 PM »
Maybe but overall they're not anywhere close to the top in NIL capability. 
a lot of this NIL stuff we still don't really know that much about because a lot of the information is private and not public information. And there's obviously a difference between NIL capability and what the NIL is actually doing right now. 

For example Michigan's NIL isn't terrible, but it's not great. They are severely lacking and my guess is Bama probably out spending them. But if Michigan got it's act together they have the boosters and donors to out spend Bama and be near the very top. And the Michigan affiliated NIL's have been refusing to spend money on recruits and are focused on paying proven players on the roster- which I'm generally in favor of- but when you start losing 5* #1 players overall in your back yard to LSU and a top 50 overall EDGE commit from Illinois to Auburn- I'm starting to question that approach. 

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #91 on: August 24, 2024, 12:59:20 PM »
a lot of this NIL stuff we still don't really know that much about because a lot of the information is private and not public information. And there's obviously a difference between NIL capability and what the NIL is actually doing right now.

For example Michigan's NIL isn't terrible, but it's not great. They are severely lacking and my guess is Bama probably out spending them. But if Michigan got it's act together they have the boosters and donors to out spend Bama and be near the very top. And the Michigan affiliated NIL's have been refusing to spend money on recruits and are focused on paying proven players on the roster- which I'm generally in favor of- but when you start losing 5* #1 players overall in your back yard to LSU and a top 50 overall EDGE commit from Illinois to Auburn- I'm starting to question that approach.
Michigan and Georgia are the two current "sleeping giants" with respect to NIL capability  Once those two schools really get their act together, they'll be right up there with Ohio State and Texas.  And really, nobody's in Oregon's league unless/until Knight kicks the bucket.

But we actually DO know quite a bit about each school, because the recruits talk to each school about what they're being offered elsewhere.  Put all of that data together across several years of NIL at this point, and the picture becomes pretty clear as to who's a real player, who has potential, and who's not ever really going to be able to play the game.  Alabama falls into the last of those three buckets.  They were fine in the olden days of bags of cash handed out to "uncles" under the table, but now that NIL has legitimized it, they just don't have the resources to provide similar potential as the top dogs, and unless they manufacture a bunch of new billionaires all of a sudden, they never will.

It doesn't mean they're doomed to mediocrity, not every recruitment comes down to NIL.  But the days of them stockpiling far more talent than everyone else, are over.  Saban was well aware of it and it's one of the main reasons he quit when he did,

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #92 on: August 24, 2024, 02:12:37 PM »
It's funny, all those tech founding fathers dropping out of college (albeit largely Ivies), is a boatload of money not involving itself in college football.

You'd think Cal or Stanford would try to wink and nod their way into some of that money.
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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #93 on: August 24, 2024, 02:14:18 PM »
Not sure why FSU went after DJ U.  He's......limited.
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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #94 on: August 24, 2024, 03:12:35 PM »
It's funny, all those tech founding fathers dropping out of college (albeit largely Ivies), is a boatload of money not involving itself in college football.

You'd think Cal or Stanford would try to wink and nod their way into some of that money.
Yeah just imagine if Michael Dell gave a crap about sports, UT's NIL would be... well, quite large.

Instead he spends hundreds of millions of dollars founding hospitals and med schools and such.  Darn selfish bastage!

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #95 on: August 24, 2024, 09:13:05 PM »
Not sure why FSU went after DJ U.  He's......limited.
Agreed. He has never blown me away.

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #96 on: August 25, 2024, 08:03:58 AM »
Michigan and Georgia are the two current "sleeping giants" with respect to NIL capability  Once those two schools really get their act together, they'll be right up there with Ohio State and Texas.  And really, nobody's in Oregon's league unless/until Knight kicks the bucket.
UGA seems to be competitive, at least on the recruiting front.  They don't have any local "deep pockets" though like a Dell.

Arthur Blank is in ATL and donates to this and that, and owns the Falcons and the soccer team, so he likes sports.  I don't know that he donates to any Tech NIL thing.  His partner in starting HD also donates a lot, but more quietly I'm informed.  Blank likes his name on stuff.

I guess he's a blank slate.

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Re: Who are the most INTERESTING teams in 2024?
« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2024, 09:06:29 AM »
UGA seems to be competitive, at least on the recruiting front.  They don't have any local "deep pockets" though like a Dell.

Arthur Blank is in ATL and donates to this and that, and owns the Falcons and the soccer team, so he likes sports.  I don't know that he donates to any Tech NIL thing.  His partner in starting HD also donates a lot, but more quietly I'm informed.  Blank likes his name on stuff.

I guess he's a blank slate.
Sure, like I said, not every recruitment comes down to NIL.  And even if Georgia is not yet "fully weaponized" it doesn't mean that the Bulldogs don't have any NIL at all.  Just not as much as they could, and eventually will, have.

I think I've also mentioned several times that Michael Dell has zero interest in sports.  He donates his time and money to things like founding new hospitals and building and expanding new med schools. 

 

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