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Topic: Who's the Gators new H.C.?

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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #140 on: November 13, 2017, 12:41:08 PM »
I figured Mdot was doing that, Mr. Nubbz.  However, he did say "college quarterback."

Mayfield might make it as a pro, but his lack of height and his gunslinger style will obviously work against him.
Yeah, that really got in Brees' way too. 

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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #141 on: November 13, 2017, 08:59:17 PM »
I think Ridley is kind of over-hyped. Best WR in the nation plays for Okie State. James Washington of Texas.
Mayfield and Barrett are great college players, Mayfield probably projects to the next level a lot better but I do think the system they play in and the players they have around them definitely benefit them a lot. They aren't asked to do the things Darnold and Rosen are asked to do. They also get a lot of free looks and easy throws just because of the way their offensive systems are set up.
You mention systems helping Mayfield and Barrett, but ignore them when considering Ridley and Washington.  Ridley has a glorified RB throwing to him on a team that hands the ball off 70% of the time, while OK State goes deep every other snap....
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« Reply #142 on: November 13, 2017, 09:02:42 PM »
The downside of firing your coach early is the waiting game.  Not going to hear anything for another month at the earliest.
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« Reply #143 on: November 13, 2017, 09:18:08 PM »
Nebraska hasn't fired the coach yet, but the entire state and fan base is waiting for the name of the next coach
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« Reply #145 on: November 14, 2017, 02:14:08 PM »
good news for Husker fans

Chip wasn't coming to Lincoln

one less heavyweight trying to hire Frost
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« Reply #146 on: November 14, 2017, 03:26:13 PM »
Bravo Florida. That's a home run hire. Can't wait to see the kind of offenses Florida is going to field under Chip. Gonna see things UF fans have seen since Meyer/Tebow glory days.

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« Reply #147 on: November 14, 2017, 05:37:17 PM »
Ehhhh, Florida hasn't hired anyone, so......hold fast.
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« Reply #148 on: November 14, 2017, 05:48:16 PM »
UF is merely clearing the hurdles so they can take their pick
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #149 on: November 15, 2017, 10:57:37 AM »
Florida is a tough place to coach because of expectations.  Another coach might come in and win the East a couple of times, have an injury ridden down year, and be tossed out.  It COULD happen, trust me.
Unless a candidate is young and very ambitious, who would want the Florida job, given that they mistreat, cast aside and show no loyalty towards their HCs? An experienced, successful coach probably doesn’t want the headache of the ridiculous expectations combined with the very real threat of getting fired almost immediately, even if they do fairly well at the job. Florida (and Tennessee) need to experience the consequences of their actions (complete disloyalty towards their HCs), hopefully nobody decent will take the job, and a lesson will be learned. Probably not that likely, but one has to hope. Also, Florida is going to have to put huge buyout clauses into the contracts of desirable candidates.

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« Reply #150 on: November 15, 2017, 02:53:44 PM »
All that is sort of true, but keep in mind UF has had a recent AD change.  That adds to the probability of a HC being replaced.

But....if a HC wants loyalty, he needs to win.  2/3 of your conference games isn't good enough at Florida, period.  2/3 of your games is usually good for 3rd in the division - McElwain lucked out and it was good enough for a couple of 1st-place finishes in the division.  

UF does run the risk of scaring some prospective HCs away, but it's worth it - you can only be an elite program if you expect to be an elite program.  
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #151 on: November 15, 2017, 03:06:54 PM »
All that is sort of true, but keep in mind UF has had a recent AD change.  That adds to the probability of a HC being replaced.

But....if a HC wants loyalty, he needs to win.  2/3 of your conference games isn't good enough at Florida, period.  2/3 of your games is usually good for 3rd in the division - McElwain lucked out and it was good enough for a couple of 1st-place finishes in the division.  

UF does run the risk of scaring some prospective HCs away, but it's worth it - you can only be an elite program if you expect to be an elite program.  
honestly- the guy deserved to be fired. So did Zook. I don't think there's any more or less pressure at Florida than any helmet job.

Losing sucks, and it'll get you fired. How you lose also matters. What good was back dooring into winning a weak SEC East just to make it to the SEC CG to get beat down by Alabama twice in SEC CG's? He also lost to his in-state rival FSU twice by like 20+ points each time I think. Then there was that bowl game against Michigan he lost 41-7. He just was not competitive in a lot of games. The pressure mounts up when you're getting pantsed by 20-30+ points continually. I think in one of those SEC CG's Alabama beat him by like 40+.

UF is a great job. You're 100% right- you can only be an elite program if you expect and embrace that pressure. Great coaches put more pressure on themselves than any fans ever could. I think Kelly would be a great fit at Florida. There are so many great athletes on defense in the state- Florida has basically always had good defenses. Even when they've had some bad teams, those defenses have been pretty solid. It's the offenses they need fixed. Nobody better on offense in the college game than Chip Kelly.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #152 on: November 19, 2017, 03:51:52 PM »
Don't know about that.The right guy at UCLA - Chip Kelly maybe,has Cali to shop from
well this just got a lot more interesting with Mora out the door
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #153 on: November 19, 2017, 05:17:22 PM »
If it comes down to money, Florida will be able to outbid UCLA. But it's only coming to that because - why is it taking so long for Florida to make a target hire? Kelly should been signed on a week ago.

 

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