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Topic: Who's the Gators new H.C.?

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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #126 on: November 12, 2017, 02:50:35 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 12, 2017, 02:26:18 PM
Jesus Christ, your standards are high.  And btw, you acknowledged Tebow as a great COLLEGE player, so that's where I thought your focus was.  

That list of QBs won 3 NCs and 2 Heismans......Culpepper was a 1st round pick with a 10-year NFL career.  Jeez.
I don't think my standards are that high. Frazier didn't put up the kind of numbers Tebow did, and it was just a different era. Culpepper to me is no better/worse than someone like Brian Griese who was a 3rd round pick and played 11 years in the NFL.

California has produced QB's like.....Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Troy Aikman (who grew up in Cali, moved to Oklahoma then moved back to Cali), Tom Brady, Derek Carr, Carson Palmer (better than Culpepper ever dreamed of being- and he's not even that great), Alex Smith (compares favorably to Culpepper- and he's never been that good imo), then you have guys who were great in college but pretty mediocre after like Matt Leinart, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, and right now in my mind the two best college QB's bar none are Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold- both from California.
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« Reply #127 on: November 12, 2017, 04:38:11 PM »
I don't think anyone suggested CA QBs weren't better than FL's.  

I could be silly and go the extra step of saying Rodgers, Aikman, and Brady weren't athletic enough to move to RB or WR   :57:

Saying someone didn't put up the numbers Tebow did is sort of weird - no one did.  But okay, CA produces QBs, cool.  FL produces RB, WR, OL, great DL, LB, and DBs.  

What state produces kickers?
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #128 on: November 12, 2017, 07:12:26 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 12, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
I don't think my standards are that high. Frazier didn't put up the kind of numbers Tebow did, and it was just a different era. Culpepper to me is no better/worse than someone like Brian Griese who was a 3rd round pick and played 11 years in the NFL.

California has produced QB's like.....Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Troy Aikman (who grew up in Cali, moved to Oklahoma then moved back to Cali), Tom Brady, Derek Carr, Carson Palmer (better than Culpepper ever dreamed of being- and he's not even that great), Alex Smith (compares favorably to Culpepper- and he's never been that good imo), then you have guys who were great in college but pretty mediocre after like Matt Leinart, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, and right now in my mind the two best college QB's bar none are Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold- both from California.
More than a few of the sports-meda talking heads would disagree with you and put that label on Baker Mayfield.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #129 on: November 12, 2017, 07:15:47 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 12, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
I don't think anyone suggested CA QBs weren't better than FL's.  

I could be silly and go the extra step of saying Rodgers, Aikman, and Brady weren't athletic enough to move to RB or WR   :57:

Saying someone didn't put up the numbers Tebow did is sort of weird - no one did.  But okay, CA produces QBs, cool.  FL produces RB, WR, OL, great DL, LB, and DBs.  

What state produces kickers?
Georgia, Tennessee, South America and Europe.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #130 on: November 12, 2017, 07:17:18 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on November 12, 2017, 07:12:26 PM
More than a few of the sports-meda talking heads would disagree with you and put that label on Baker Mayfield.
I would love to see what my Badgers would look like with Mayfield at the helm. Holy crap.
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« Reply #131 on: November 12, 2017, 07:21:35 PM »
I would hate to see what my Sooners would look like without him, Badge.
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« Reply #132 on: November 12, 2017, 07:41:43 PM »
AP Top 25
1. Alabama (SEC)
2. Miami (ACC)
3. Oklahoma (Big 12)
4. Clemson (ACC)
5. Wisconsin (Big Ten)
6. Auburn (SEC)
7. Georgia (SEC)
8. Ohio State (Big Ten)
9. Notre Dame (Div. I FBS Independents)
10. Oklahoma State (Big 12)

check the rosters of the top 10 teams this week......  more kids from Florida or Cali?  Heck, count Cali QBs as 2
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #133 on: November 12, 2017, 07:44:25 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on November 12, 2017, 07:12:26 PM
More than a few of the sports-meda talking heads would disagree with you and put that label on Baker Mayfield.
Our Michigan affiliate is factoring in NFL potential.Mayfield may lead the conversastion as a collegiate QB
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #134 on: November 12, 2017, 08:58:21 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 12, 2017, 07:44:25 PM
Our Michigan affiliate is factoring in NFL potential.Mayfield may lead the conversastion as a collegiate QB
I figured Mdot was doing that, Mr. Nubbz.  However, he did say "college quarterback."

Mayfield might make it as a pro, but his lack of height and his gunslinger style will obviously work against him.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #135 on: November 12, 2017, 09:24:01 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 12, 2017, 07:44:25 PM
Our Michigan affiliate is factoring in NFL potential.Mayfield may lead the conversastion as a collegiate QB
yes. Mayfield is the best player in college though, for sure. Won't get any arguments from me there.

In defense of them, Darnold has been playing on maybe the most banged up team in the country, and Rosen is basically a one man show. Poor kid has no help.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #136 on: November 12, 2017, 09:30:07 PM »
Mayfield and JT Barrett are from TX.  Bama's Calvin Ridley and OSU's Bosa bros. are from FL.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #137 on: November 12, 2017, 09:43:41 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 12, 2017, 09:30:07 PM
Mayfield and JT Barrett are from TX.  Bama's Calvin Ridley and OSU's Bosa bros. are from FL.
I think Ridley is kind of over-hyped. Best WR in the nation plays for Okie State. James Washington of Texas.
Mayfield and Barrett are great college players, Mayfield probably projects to the next level a lot better but I do think the system they play in and the players they have around them definitely benefit them a lot. They aren't asked to do the things Darnold and Rosen are asked to do. They also get a lot of free looks and easy throws just because of the way their offensive systems are set up.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #138 on: November 13, 2017, 09:03:46 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on November 12, 2017, 07:21:35 PM
I would hate to see what my Sooners would look like without him, Badge.
I guess that means a trade is not in play?

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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #139 on: November 13, 2017, 12:06:48 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 13, 2017, 09:03:46 AM
I guess that means a trade is not in play?

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No trade.  But feel free to pursue him as a free agent after this season concludes.  ;)
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