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Topic: Who's the Gators new H.C.?

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Cincydawg

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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2017, 10:27:33 AM »
Fans tend to be optimists, and deep pessimists, all in the same week at times.

I expect Bama will get a good coach and keep top tier assistants, facilities, tradition, and recruits.  Of course they might go 3-4-5 years without an NC a la Ohio State and the fans get restless.


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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2017, 10:39:04 AM »
My Ohio State friends have had a bit of a roller coaster ride for obvious reasons.  They are mostly oscillating through the usual stages of grief and some have reached acceptance of a sort, though a few want a new coach now.  The other notion is "Better now than in the playoff (31-0).".


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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2017, 10:52:40 AM »
it's a crap shoot

Scott Frost isn't a sure thing at Nebraska or Florida or Tennessee

MDot thinks of Chip Kelly as a sure thing at Nebraska, but not many other folks are quite as certain.

Even Urban got off to a great start at OSU and Franklin won the Big Ten last season, but they may not be able to sustain that success.

Jimmy Harbaugh was a sure thing at Michigan, but it's taking more time than some expected.

crap shoot, with more crap than anything
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2017, 10:56:45 AM »
fans get really riled after a blowout loss or two

I, as a fan, understand it.

But, when you're playing good/great teams such as Oklahoma and even Iowa in Kinnick, some games just get rolling to wrong way and get out of hand.

No one enjoys a blow out, but when you have young guys turning the ball over and momentum swings with big plays it happens more often than it used to.

Urban isn't a bad coach or has lost his touch because of a blowout.  Perhaps he needs to change a guy or two on his staff, but there's no logical reason to think changing the entire staff will get better results.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2017, 11:12:20 AM »
it's a crap shoot

Scott Frost isn't a sure thing at Nebraska or Florida or Tennessee

MDot thinks of Chip Kelly as a sure thing at Nebraska, but not many other folks are quite as certain.

Even Urban got off to a great start at OSU and Franklin won the Big Ten last season, but they may not be able to sustain that success.

Jimmy Harbaugh was a sure thing at Michigan, but it's taking more time than some expected.
There are no sure things in life. But I absolutely think Chip would be as close to a sure thing at just about any college program.

Urban walked into a pretty sweet roster at Ohio State and he just expanded that thing. Did the same thing at UF. Lot of great players were already there- that is part of the reason why he was able to win so quickly. Other part: he's just a great coach. I don't get the Urban bashing. He's an amazing coach.

Never been a believer in Franklin. Still ain't. I think last season was probably a fluke for them.

Harbaugh lost damn near all of his starting offensive tackles to injuries/transfers the past two years, been a shuffled line. Still hasn't found a QB. Peters could be the guy, but that is still a TBD. The lack of creativity and the stone-age style offense he runs- he won't be accomplishing jack-shit until he finds a real life QB and some future NFL offensive tackles. Lots of offensive systems can hide the QB and make things easier for the OL- use creativity, tempo, all kinds of things. Not Harbaugh's offense- that offense is a basic ass bitch. Even MSU and the much maligned Dave Warner throw in more wrinkles, have a more creative offense than a Harboffense.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2017, 01:15:58 PM »
I took a look and I found that Chip Kelly's Show Cause penalty imposed by the NCAA has expired.

So at least there's that.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2017, 01:27:23 PM »
Urban Meyer should be fired TODAY.  Well, I read that somewhere on the Interwebz.

I would feel sorry for these coaches but then I look at the salaries.

I was somewhat friendly with one of our VPs.  His personal life was not something I'd like in that he had 6 weeks of vacation, took about two of that each year, and worked almost the entire time he was out.  He got paid a lot, but was getting pretty burned out by 50.  His day was meetings after meetings listening to people (like me) telling him things he didn't care about but had to show interest.  He usually was in about the same I was, around 7:15 and left long after I left.

Long ago, I had a chance to follow a director around all day to see what he did.  I'd been with the company 6-7 years I guess.  I hated his job, and I was just an observer.


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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2017, 05:00:51 PM »
Urban Meyer should be fired TODAY.  Well, I read that somewhere on the Interwebz.

I would feel sorry for these coaches but then I look at the salaries.
Ain't that the damn truth lol. Saban making $11 million, Dabo and Harbaugh over $8mil and Urban almost $7mil. 
Ridiculous the crap they have to put up with from stupid fans if they don't win every game and by 30- but when you're making that kind of cheddar- can't feel sorry for any of them. Comes with the job. Hell you can even suck as a coach and make a fortune. Brady Hoke was making like close to $3.5 million a year. 

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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2017, 05:22:25 PM »
I'd love to see Chip Kelly and Will Muschamp on the same sideline.  WM bitching about how quickly the offense keeps scoring and Kelly trying to be even quicker, just to mess with his own DC.  

Cincy, you'd get your Mount St. Muschamp moment you're pining for.

I think Chip Kelly at Florida would be a definite upgrade, and almost unfair, except when UF would play LSU and Bama (and maybe sometimes UGA) - where that big-boy style almost always defeats Chip Kelly style (think Stanford over Oregon).
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2017, 05:34:09 PM »
Badger used to drone on about how the Butch Jones finesse OL approach wouldn't work in the SEC.  Derp.

The thing about a fast scoring offense is that it puts your D back on the field rather soonish.

UGA had over 38 minutes ToP against USCe last weekend.  They didn't score much but they just held the ball for long periods while the D rested.  To their credit, USCe's D did not fold.

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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2017, 11:30:05 AM »
rumor in Lincoln that UF has offered Scott Frost 34 million over 7 years
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2017, 11:40:18 AM »
rumor in Lincoln that UF has offered Scott Frost 34 million over 7 years
I'm thinking he's gonna get more than that, given all of the openings there will be come December.
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2017, 12:31:20 PM »
I'm guessing the guys at UNL will offer more than that

will be a new era in the state.  Dirt farmers in the state won't like spending that much, but it will get done
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Re: Who's the Gators new H.C.?
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2017, 03:12:55 PM »
What about Chris Peterson?

I was idly thinking about coaching changes the Dawgs made post-Dooley.  The first hire was just not a good one, and then they got Donnan, who basically could win 8-9 a year while losing to UF and Tenn and Auburn and Tech, not good.  Then Richt who stepped it up a notch to winning 9-10 a year and with some top five finishes and two SEC titles.  Now Smart, who might step it up another notch (early to say he has).  Of course, everything else did not stay the same over those years.

I see some posts by OSU fans who think Meyer is "over the hill" and should step down.  OSU might be 12-2 yet this year and their fans often will think of it as a down year, almost a disaster.

 

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