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Topic: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles

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medinabuckeye1

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When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« on: December 11, 2020, 11:42:31 AM »
History of the lead in titles in this league:

  • Wisconsin won the first two and lead 2-0 (both were outright).  They split with Michigan in 1901 and maintained their lead because that was their third and Michigan's second.  
  • Michigan tied Wisconsin at three in 1902 and passed them with four in 1903.  Michigan got to six titles and held the lead until after they left the conference.  
  • Minnesota tied Michigan with six in 1910 and passed them with seven in 1911.  Minnesota maintained their lead until:
  • Michigan tied Minnesota with eight in 1922 and passed them with nine in 1923.  Michigan maintained their lead until:
  • Minnesota tied Michigan with 15 in 1940 and passed them with 16 in 1941.  Minnesota maintained their lead until:
  • Michigan tied Minnesota with 16 in 1943 and passed them with 17 in 1947.  Michigan has held the lead alone ever since.  

All-time league titles in our league:
  • 42 Michigan, last in 2004
  • 38 Ohio State, last in 2019
  • 18 Minnesota, last in 1967
  • 15 Illinois, last in 2001
  • 14 Wisconsin, last in 2012
  • 11 Iowa, last in 2004
  • 9 Michigan State, last in 2015
  • 8 Northwestern, last in 2000 (prior was 1996)
  • 8 Purdue, last in 2000 (prior was 1967)
  • 7 Chicago, last in 1924 (as of 1924 they were in third place behind Michigan with 9 and Minnesota with 8)
  • 4 Penn State, last in 2016
  • 2 Indiana, last in 1967

To be fair to the later-joining members:
Titles since PSU joined (1993-present):
  • 13 Ohio State, last in 2019
  • 6 Wisconsin, last in 2012
  • 5 Michigan, last in 2004
  • 4 Penn State, last in 2016
  • 3 Michigan State, last in 2015
  • 3 Northwestern, last in 2000
  • 2 Iowa, last in 2004
  • 1 Illinois, last in 2001
  • 1 Purdue, last in 2000

Titles since MSU joined (1953-present):
  • 30 Ohio State, last in 2019
  • 22 Michigan, last in 2004
  • 9 Michigan State, last in 2015
  • 8 Wisconsin, last in 2012
  • 8 Iowa, last in 2004
  • 5 Illinois, last in 2001
  • 4 Penn State, last in 2016
  • 3 Northwestern, last in 2000
  • 2 Purdue, last in 2000
  • 2 Minnesota, last in 1967
  • 1 Indiana, last in 1967


FWIW:  Ohio State tied Minnesota for second place with 18 in 1974 and passed them with 19 in 1975.  Since then Michigan has been #1, Ohio State has been #2, and Minnesota has been #3.  
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2020, 11:45:19 AM »
6-10

at this point the usual contenders are looking so good.

Penn St., Michigan, Wisconsin - they don't seem too close to matching the Bucks in this crazy season
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2020, 01:45:47 PM »
As we know, it takes only one upset at the wrong time to the wrong team to knock OSU out of the CG, even if they probably are the best team.  It's going to happen every so often, as it has in the past.  So, I might say OSU would win 4 of 5 of the next Eastern division titles, but not 100%.  And they lose Fields and his blocking ability next year.
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2020, 05:24:10 PM »
What is the breakdown since Nebraska joined? Maryland?
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2020, 05:25:20 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 11, 2020, 01:45:47 PM
As we know, it takes only one upset at the wrong time to the wrong team to knock OSU out of the CG, even if they probably are the best team.  It's going to happen every so often, as it has in the past.  So, I might say OSU would win 4 of 5 of the next Eastern division titles, but not 100%.  And they lose Fields and his blocking ability next year.
I see what you did there. :)
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2020, 06:06:53 PM »
As long as there is a CCG each year and only 1 champion each year,  the chances of getting a conference championship in a 14-team Big Ten will be much lower than the old era with all those goofy co-championships in a 10-team conference.

A league title prior to 2011 is almost the equivalent of a division championship today.

I feel like the Big Ten should almost do like the NFL did when it merged with the AFL.   NFL teams today are rated on how many Super Bowl titles they have.   All those NFL titles teams won before the Super Bowl fall into a different category.
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2020, 12:13:23 AM »
The Browns were good, pre SB.  But yeah, nobody knows that.
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2020, 12:30:45 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 12, 2020, 12:13:23 AM
The Browns were good, pre SB.  But yeah, nobody knows that.
There are a few, but they are REALLY old.

My dad, 80, remembers the Browns as a powerhouse 
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2020, 08:45:45 AM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on December 11, 2020, 05:25:20 PM
I see what you did there. :)

Heh.  I sAw that clip and thought "COOL"  

Obviously, we should have benched Fromm.
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2020, 09:00:38 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 12, 2020, 12:30:45 AM
There are a few, but they are REALLY old.

My dad, 80, remembers the Browns as a powerhouse

Not just the Browns, but the Detroit Lions as well. 
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2020, 09:01:11 AM »
How could the Gophers still be comfortably in third place? Is anyone else even trying? 
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2020, 09:19:48 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 12, 2020, 09:00:38 AM
Not just the Browns, but the Detroit Lions as well.
In the '50s they both made the Title game a bunch of times.I think the Lions held a 2-3 or 3-4 advantage vs the Browns
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2020, 09:45:52 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 12, 2020, 09:01:11 AM
How could the Gophers still be comfortably in third place? Is anyone else even trying?


...and Illinois is still fourth? 

What are the rest of you even doing? :57:
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Re: When, if ever, will Ohio State catch Michigan in League Titles
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2020, 10:10:49 AM »
Tough to win titles for most schools not called OSU right now.
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