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Topic: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?

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847badgerfan

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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2022, 08:50:28 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 02, 2022, 10:58:39 PM
How'd that work out for them?
Better than it has for Florida, Wisconsin, Texas, USC, PSU, UNL, etc.
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2022, 08:56:08 AM »
Every thread has way too much Fro, these days. 
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2022, 08:58:19 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 03, 2022, 08:50:28 AM
Better than it has for Florida, Wisconsin, Texas, USC, PSU, UNL, etc.
sad but true
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2022, 08:59:07 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on July 03, 2022, 08:56:08 AM
Every thread has way too much Fro, these days.
Might be true, but in all fairness, OAM did actually start THIS thread...
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2022, 09:24:46 AM »
How much do you personally care where ND ends up?  Do you want them in the B1G?  Good addition from a money standpoint, and adds another power (BB) to the conference.  But if they don't, do you view it as a significant missed opp?  Or just meh?
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2022, 09:42:24 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 03, 2022, 09:24:46 AM
How much do you personally care where ND ends up?  Do you want them in the B1G?  Good addition from a money standpoint, and adds another power (BB) to the conference.  But if they don't, do you view it as a significant missed opp?  Or just meh?

Are you asking everyone, or just OP?

I'll answer with my opinion-- I don't personally care.  They've always been independent, they've always had some sort-of rivalries with B1G schools like Michigan and Purdue, and some non-B1G rivalries with Stanford and USC.  They could still maintain these games either as a B1G member, or as an independent.

I think these days a lot of people want to see ND fully join a conference, to eliminate the "special consideration" they perceive ND receives when it comes to CFP and/or bowl selection.

But personally, that's never bothered me so it's not a motivating factor for me.
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2022, 09:47:41 AM »
You don't live next to them and hear their bloviating
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2022, 09:51:44 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 03, 2022, 09:47:41 AM
You don't live next to them and hear their bloviating
...and making fun of us for rooting for them when they play the Wolverines. 
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2022, 09:54:48 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 02, 2022, 08:26:18 PM
much more so than BYU

and BYU's religious group isn't nearly as large
Mormons aren't as numerous but I think that they are, on average, more dedicated to their religion. 
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2022, 10:23:52 AM »
I personally do not care, at all.  B1G, ACC, Indy, fine with me, whatever.

I know there are monetary considerations obviously, and it would probably value up whatever conference they joined.  That's about it.
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2022, 10:53:43 AM »
Think pretty soon they’ll have no choice but to join the B1G. 
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2022, 11:14:22 AM »
What is Notre Dame "worth"?

The good:
Notre Dame has a massive nationwide following. They also have a ton of "anti-fans", people like me who don't like them. These "anti-fans", however, are almost as good as normal fans from a ratings perspective. Ie, one viewer is one viewer regardless of whether they are watching to root for or against Notre Dame. 

An illustration of Notre Dame's draw:
I own a lot of Ohio State gear. However, I only own a VERY few shirts specifically commemorating specific individual games. The few of that type that I do own are tied to games that won an NC or got tOSU to a NC game. The exceptions are that I own a shirt for each of Ohio State's four wins over Notre Dame. 

Their undergraduate academics are very good and would certainly be a credit to the B1G.

They have significant history with multiple current or about-to-be league members:

  • ND's second most frequent with 92 games is USC
  • ND's third most frequent opponent with 84 games is Purdue
  • ND's fourth most frequent opponent with 73 games is MSU
  • ND's seventh most frequent opponent with 47 games is Northwestern 
  • ND's eighth most frequent opponent with 38 games is Michigan 
  • ND's fourteenth most frequent opponent with 25 games is Indiana 
  • ND's fifteenth most frequent opponent with 24 games is Iowa
  • Penn State (19), Wisconsin (17), Nebraska (16), and Illinois (11) have also each played the Irish at least 11 times.

Only Ohio State (6), Minnesota (5), Rutgers (5), UCLA (4), and Maryland (2) have not frequently played the Irish.

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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2022, 11:26:42 AM »
What is Notre Dame "worth":

The bad:
I continue to believe that as generations go by the fewer and fewer remaining catholics will continue to see their religion as less and less of a differentiating characteristic. That in turn makes them less likely to root for the Catholic school.

I tend to think that a lot of Notre Dame's "anti-fans" are anti-fans at least in part because of their perceived "special status" which essentially disappears the instant they join a league.

Their graduate/research programs are pathetic compared to the rest of the league.

While their national draw is great for overall ratings it doesn't necessarily deliver any metro areas that the B1G doesn't already control.
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Re: VOTE: What will ND end up doing?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2022, 11:34:44 AM »
It would be a nice addition for the B1G moneywise, and a great addition for the ACC.  I agree sooner or very sooner they join either.  The ACC is a good match academically with some schools that are quite good undergrad but not great grad.

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