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And now I can’t really remember what point I was trying to make or what we’re arguing about.  😀

I guess, really I do think the old ways were better, and that’s a change because I was all about the playoff and the new systems. 

But just because it’s all about the playoffs instead of some bowl is that such a bad deal?  Once upon a time we only had a handful of bowls in the first place. I remember in the late 90’s a lot of people were already complaining about too many meaningless bowls and the list just kept growing and growing. I’m actually shocked that opt outs didn’t start until the 2010s. What makes bowl games special is that they were rare and unique. 

One last note about the difficult non-conference schedules, the answer has been staring you in the face the whole time but you looked right past it. A&M played and beat ND earlier this season. ND played exactly two teams with a pulse. A&M and Miami. The rest of their schedule is garbage. 

At this point it appears ND is in the playoffs with two losses and zero quality wins, while if A&M had played Sam Houston instead and went 11-1 losing to Texas the chances are high we would not be in or seeded very low. 

if Texas would have won vs Ohio St.  There's no discussion needed.

1-loss Buckeyes are in.  not a #1 or #2 seed but...........probably a #2 if they beat the Hoosiers, maybe #1
2-loss Horns are in.  with a great seed because of their win over the Buckeyes, but, the coveted #5???