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Topic: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)

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utee94

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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #70 on: Today at 10:46:56 AM »
If you say so! It's not my sport, so I don't actually care how they determine a champion.


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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #71 on: Today at 10:58:52 AM »
It is.
Not as dumb as the old system, where this week Scheffler would have been crowned the champion despite NOT shooting the lowest score in the tournament. 

Scheffler did get $10M for winning the season long points race before the playoff, and another $5M for being #1 in points after the BMW. So... I'm not crying for him. 

And I'm pretty sure if you asked Scottie, he'd say Fleetwood 100% earned it. 

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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #72 on: Today at 11:01:48 AM »
Fleetwood finished 5th in total points - and nowhere near the top dog (nobody was even close).
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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #73 on: Today at 11:02:54 AM »
Fleetwood finished 5th in total points - and nowhere near the top dog (nobody was even close).
Yeah, and the 18-0 NE Patriots had a much more impressive season than the NY Giants. 

But they didn't win when it mattered. 

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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #74 on: Today at 11:03:57 AM »
My point is calling him the "tour champion" really does a disservice to those who finished ahead of him in points. "Tour Champion" to me should be a season's accomplishment - not winning one tournament (ever).
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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #75 on: Today at 11:09:19 AM »
My point is calling him the "tour champion" really does a disservice to those who finished ahead of him in points. "Tour Champion" to me should be a season's accomplishment - not winning one tournament (ever).
Well Scottie got 15M reminders of his season-long accomplishments (on top of everything else he earned). 

I'd prefer they go back to the OLD old system--two trophies. One for the FedEx Cup (season long) and another for the Tour Championship (one tournament). 

But I'm glad they got rid of the starting strokes thing. That was worse than the OLD old system, and worse than the current system. 

And hey, Scottie did still get to be the "Champion Golfer Of The Year". 

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« Reply #76 on: Today at 11:13:20 AM »
Agree on the strokes thing. That was silly - like why even have this event?
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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #77 on: Today at 02:18:03 PM »
Is it?

IMHO this game may be important as to which B12 team will be the conference's representative to be a sacrificial lamb in the CFP. But neither of these teams is going to win the NC.
I was thinking some more about this and I want to revise my answer.  

I still agree that there is basically zero chance that ISU/KSU are going to win 3-4 straight CFP games to win the NC but . . .

These teams ARE good enough to pull off an upset that definitely could impact the NC.  Consider this example:
Lets say that the Texas / Ohio State game is a close game similar to either last year's tOSU/Oregon game at Oregon or last year's TX/tOSU game.  Ie, the kind of game where the loser has good reason to feel that they *COULD* have won.  Then lets say that the winner ends up as the #1 seed and the loser ends up as the #4 seed.  As the #1 seed, TX/tOSU will play the #5/12 winner in the quarterfinal and as the #4 seed, TX/tOSU will play the #8/9 winner in the quarterfinal.  It isn't unrealistic to think that ISU (winner in Dublin) could be the #5 seed and KSU (loser in Dublin) could be the #8 or #9 seed.  So lets say that ISU and KSU win their opening round games.  Thus, the quarterfinals on that side of the bracket are:
  • #1/4 TX vs #5 Iowa State or #8 Kansas State in the Sugar Bowl (I'm assuming location here)
  • #1/4 Ohio State vs #5 Iowa Stater or #8 Kansas State in the Rose Bowl (same).  

Realistically, the whole college football world is going to be focused on the impending 'clash of titans' between Ohio State and Texas.  After a great CFP semi-final in 2024 then another great game in Columbus in late August, TX/tOSU III would be highly anticipated even before it becomes official and therein lies the problem.  ISU/KSU aren't at TX/tOSU's level but they ARE close enough that if the Longhorns and Buckeyes go into the Sugar and Rose Bowls focused on each other and NOT on the team on the opposite sideline, the possibility of one or both getting upset is very real.  

If you don't think so, just look at last year's TX/ASU CFP Quarter-final.  The Sun Devils didn't pull off the win but they get to OT with the mighty Longhorns.  

That would impact the NC race.  If one of TX/tOSU got upset then the other would get a relatively lightweight match-up in their semi-final which may well help them in the NCG against say Georgia or Penn State.  Alternatively, if BOTH Texas and Ohio State managed to get upset in their quarter-final games then the opposite semi-final essentially becomes the NC.  


So I agree with you in the sense that I find it more-or-less impossible for ISU/KSU to win the NC but I still think the game in Dublin may end up impacting the NC race because it is entirely possible that it will determine B12CG admission and admission there could lead to a CFP berth that could lead to an upset of an actual contender.  

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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #78 on: Today at 02:29:37 PM »
All of that, plus... why does a game need to be important to the NC title race, in order to be interesting enough to watch in August?

Many of the people on this board complain about the idea that the sole focus of college football is now the national championship, but aren't we just contributing to that problem when we express that type of feeling?

I didn't watch all of Farmageddon because I had a lot of other stuff going on, but what part I did stop to watch, was enjoyable.  It was a competitive game between a couple of evenly matched teams.  I don't know, and didn't stop to care, whether or not either one of them was going to play for the NC eventually.  

Just my $0.02.

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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #79 on: Today at 02:32:39 PM »
So I agree with you in the sense that I find it more-or-less impossible for ISU/KSU to win the NC but I still think the game in Dublin may end up impacting the NC race because it is entirely possible that it will determine B12CG admission and admission there could lead to a CFP berth that could lead to an upset of an actual contender. 
Eh. Nope.

The game in Dublin doesn't impact the NC race. The winner of the game in Dublin is more likely to get a SHOT to impact the NC race. But from the standpoint of the NC race, nobody gives a rat's ass whether the team that gets an upset in an early round of the CFP is ISU or KSU. They're interchangeable from the standpoint of football fans outside either direct fan base (and maybe Iowa or Kansas fans as their rivals--i.e. the only thing that IU's CFP berth did for me was make me want to see IU fail, not succeed). 

The fact that one of them might upset an NC contender doesn't make the Dublin game any more meaningful. 

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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #80 on: Today at 02:33:54 PM »
All of that, plus... why does a game need to be important to the NC title race, in order to be interesting enough to watch in August?

Many of the people on this board complain about the idea that the sole focus of college football is now the national championship, but aren't we just contributing to that problem when we express that type of feeling?

I didn't watch all of Farmageddon because I had a lot of other stuff going on, but what part I did stop to watch, was enjoyable.  It was a competitive game between a couple of evenly matched teams.  I don't know, and didn't stop to care, whether or not either one of them was going to play for the NC eventually. 

Just my $0.02.
Agree 100%. I wasn't saying that the game MUST be important to the NC race to be worth watching. 

I'd have watched the game if I wasn't watching golf. And I don't care about the NC race at all. 

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Re: Week 0 stream (Farm O'Geddon)
« Reply #81 on: Today at 02:35:11 PM »
being that the teams are very similar on offense and defense, I think it's true.

If one team was a better matchup or tougher match up for the CFP opponent it might matter
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