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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13356 on: August 19, 2026, 12:44:12 PM »
I read that data centers actually convert water into highly toxic radioactive waste ,,, on social media, so it must be true ....

This notion that they "Borrow" water and some gets evaporated and the rest returned somewhat warmed is just propaganda ...

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« Reply #13357 on: August 19, 2026, 12:45:32 PM »
Yep, all of that is true.
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« Reply #13358 on: August 19, 2026, 12:53:11 PM »
I try to explain about the water usage, but they can't get past their thinking that the water is going to disappear from the planet and into a black hole somewhere.

I can't teach the hydrologic cycle to a 3 y/o. Same goes for the 75 y/o.

This notion that they "Borrow" water and some gets evaporated and the rest returned somewhat warmed is just propaganda ...


For those of us who don't know, what do data centers do wrt water availability?  I don't use a lot of social media so I haven't been told what to think.  I guess I'll let yall tell me what to think.  

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« Reply #13359 on: August 19, 2026, 01:13:56 PM »
There is a finite amount of water on this earth, and it never changes.

Evaporation and evapotranspiration put water into the air, which turns into rain, which fills our lakes, river, aquifers, etc. We treat and use it, send it to a plant for waste treatment, which sends the treated water into a creek, lake, river, etc.

Most evaporation occurs from the oceans, but the salt stays so only fresh water falls from the sky. 

Nuke plants use water for cooling, much the way traditional plants do, and what data centers do. Many businesses use water for cooling.

It always gets returned, no matter what.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13360 on: August 19, 2026, 01:20:39 PM »
A very very very very small amount of water does get converted to something else.  It's negligible, probably most of it is forming hydrates geologically.


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« Reply #13361 on: August 19, 2026, 01:34:17 PM »
0.000000000000000000001%.

Maybe.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13362 on: August 19, 2026, 03:50:54 PM »
I'm a big fan of data centers. 

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« Reply #13363 on: August 19, 2026, 04:47:11 PM »
Me too.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13364 on: August 20, 2026, 01:40:37 PM »
There is a finite amount of water on this earth, and it never changes.

Evaporation and evapotranspiration put water into the air, which turns into rain, which fills our lakes, river, aquifers, etc. We treat and use it, send it to a plant for waste treatment, which sends the treated water into a creek, lake, river, etc.

Most evaporation occurs from the oceans, but the salt stays so only fresh water falls from the sky.

Nuke plants use water for cooling, much the way traditional plants do, and what data centers do. Many businesses use water for cooling.

It always gets returned, no matter what.





So what is the claim being made by opponents of data centers?  That they somehow reduce the water availability in the area?  

I'm not familiar with this whole discussion.  

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13365 on: August 20, 2026, 01:44:02 PM »


So what is the claim being made by opponents of data centers?  That they somehow reduce the water availability in the area? 

I'm not familiar with this whole discussion. 
The complaint is that they use too much water. We all use water, and somehow it never goes away.

Unless it's for a data center.

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« Reply #13366 on: August 20, 2026, 01:52:44 PM »
The amount of stupid people is scary. And they walk among us, they drive, they vote, they reproduce.


At the risk of being one of them.....is it even possible to use so much water at a time that it doesn't have the time required to repeat the cycle to be available again when people/businesses would need it?  Like, if everybody just cut on their faucets, showers, washing machines, sprinklers, etc and left them on......could you reach a point where they'd tap out and you'd have to wait some amount of time for it to be available again?

I'm guessing the size of city and county tanks, reservoirs, things like that, factor in? 

I'm not even asking for data centers specifically......just asking in general, is that a thing that can happen? 

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« Reply #13367 on: August 20, 2026, 01:59:00 PM »
The amount of stupid people is scary. And they walk among us, they drive, they vote, they reproduce.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #13368 on: August 20, 2026, 02:08:32 PM »

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« Reply #13369 on: August 20, 2026, 02:11:44 PM »

At the risk of being one of them.....is it even possible to use so much water at a time that it doesn't have the time required to repeat the cycle to be available again when people/businesses would need it?  Like, if everybody just cut on their faucets, showers, washing machines, sprinklers, etc and left them on......could you reach a point where they'd tap out and you'd have to wait some amount of time for it to be available again?

I'm guessing the size of city and county tanks, reservoirs, things like that, factor in? 

I'm not even asking for data centers specifically......just asking in general, is that a thing that can happen? 
It can happen, and it has happened when there is a failure in the system - a pipe break, broken pump, long-term power supply, etc.

The data centers proposed here are drilling their own wells.

People see watering restriction signs and let their minds wander too much.
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