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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10584 on: August 26, 2024, 08:47:18 PM »
I didn't either
sorry
Was on the phone with someone and then it got late for folks on the East Coast
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10585 on: August 26, 2024, 10:59:36 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 26, 2024, 07:43:51 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/26/exxon-still-sees-fossil-fuels-as-majority-of-energy-market-in-25-years.html
of course it will be.

concrete, steel, ammonia and plastic.     Not to go Vaclav Smil on you CD but unless we want/will have a civilization without these four components, we'll never ween off fossil fuels, forget moving to 'EVs' from ICE.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10586 on: August 26, 2024, 11:12:30 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 26, 2024, 08:47:18 PM
I didn't either
sorry
Was on the phone with someone and then it got late for folks on the East Coast

Yeah sorry, I'll ring you back tomorrow.  I was in the middle of something and then I had movie night with the kids.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10587 on: August 27, 2024, 07:11:22 AM »
A lot of folks seem under an illusion that "net zero" by 2050 is realistic.  It very clearly is not, it's political pandering, nothing else.  It sounds good, I suppose, but has no substance behind it, no enablement.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10588 on: August 27, 2024, 08:10:22 AM »
It doesn't sound good. It sounds stupid.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10589 on: August 27, 2024, 08:13:46 AM »
Most folks don't bother to look into any numbers, or details, they just worry about climate change and think voting this way or that means we'll be able to limit it.

It's an effective sound bite.  Stop the oceans from rising etc.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10590 on: August 27, 2024, 08:23:43 AM »
20% chance.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10591 on: August 27, 2024, 08:42:52 AM »
we should also stop hurricanes

they are very dangerous and destructive

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10592 on: August 27, 2024, 09:05:40 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 26, 2024, 04:03:22 PM
La Nina is historically miserable for our rain chances here in Texico and even this recent El Nino brought us pretty much nothing.

Might be time to move.
Rained its ass off here. Still raining. 
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« Reply #10593 on: August 27, 2024, 09:14:11 AM »
All parts of Texas not near Houston, I suppose I should specify.  But it always rains in Houston anyway.

This has been the crappiest El Nino I can ever recall.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10594 on: August 27, 2024, 10:49:20 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2024, 08:10:22 AM
It doesn't sound good. It sounds stupid.
It's simple:

  • If you think climate change is basically a nothingburger, then it sounds stupid.
  • If you think climate change is bad and potentially catastrophic, then it sounds good.


It's all about your priors.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10595 on: August 27, 2024, 11:02:25 AM »
It's stupid because none of it is possible.

Look over here:

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #10596 on: August 27, 2024, 11:04:34 AM »
it's stupid because even if we throw more money at it.
We won't reach the goals here in the US of A
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« Reply #10597 on: August 27, 2024, 11:16:09 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2024, 11:02:25 AM
It's stupid because none of it is possible.

Look over here:



Oh, of course it's not possible. I was going from the premise that CD meant it sounds good, but there's no chance that we're going to do it. 

Politicians promising something 26 years away when they're mostly going to be out of office and/or dead. There's no accountability so they can say something that sounds good with no intention of delivering. 
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