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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #532 on: May 19, 2018, 07:07:44 PM »
When I first got oit of the corps and was going to school I worked at a tire recycler.  They shredded tires and shoved the scraps through a machine that tumbled them in nitrogen, making a dust of pure rubber that was sold to manufacturers... There was a cross belt magnet that extracted the metal and a wash that got most the nylon or Kevlar.  They had another machine that heated it in such a way it would turn into fibers (the rubber) and then adjoin the fibers to a mat of same material... They sold that as a ground cover for playgrounds and as antifatigue mats.  It could be dyed whatever color needed... 

They got paid by the gov to take the tires, and were paid by manufacturer's for the raw extracted rubber, then sold the metals and then those mats... They still managed to go bankrupt.  The owners sure didnt go bankrupt, just the business.  It was a great business model, bit ran by folks in it for the short game .

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #533 on: May 19, 2018, 07:19:49 PM »
PR shouldn't matter, but the masses are idiots.  Didn't Sun Chips come out with a new, more biodegradable bag, but then had to switch back because the bag crumpled too loudly?  FFS  ~???
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #534 on: May 20, 2018, 07:41:22 AM »
Burning tires is inherently a bad idea.  Tires are full of sulfur and sulfur is bad to burn pollution-wise.

Humans, especially Americans, want convenience at a low cost.  That is why we have so much plastic in things despite a rather few smallish efforts to mitigate this, and most of that is PR.  We go to a Whole Foods near us because the wife likes it and all I see there is a Kroger with better PR.

I suppose I'm pretty jaded about corporations claiming to "do good".  I see it as PR meant to enhance sales and attract millenials who want to feel good about themselves while not sacrificing any convenience or functionality.

And of course ANY plastic that ends up in landfill is not going to degrade.  ANY anything in a landfill is going to sit there entombed with very little degradation, and what happens is anaerobic and causes problems (methane).  Just view plastic as oil that was not burned for energy and so didn't contribute to CO2.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #535 on: May 20, 2018, 07:59:36 PM »
W.L. Weller... that's the good stuff.  the 15yo bottle is two years shy of being the youngest Pappy Van Winkle.  same stuff in the barrel, just bottled sooner.  I prefer it over the Pappy- it seems to not have the absurd smoke flavor pappy has... i could be easily convinced the 23yo pappy has liquid smoke added. not that it's bad, it's not- it's just right... just not something you'd expect to encounter in a drink.  the weller doesn't suffer from that... it's just as good as the pappy but in a different way.  pappy with lessor smoke.  good stuff.
Two tears ago at a christmas party some family/friends and their in-laws(bourbon Snobs) were filling me in on the strange Pappy/Weller saga.Exhorting the nectars virtues -  there was an impressive assortment of fine spirits already on hand but no Pappy or Weller.I heard Weller can be had in Texas for a reasonable price but seemingly not above the Mason/Dixon.But I'd never no know as I've not seen it  and am not connected.But like so many of the gotta have craft beers it seems a bit of a let down after obtaining.Reminds me of the story on how those hi falutin' French & Napa Valley Vineyards got smoked by Two-Buck Chucks in that taste test twenty years back
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #536 on: May 20, 2018, 08:12:37 PM »
The planes back then weren't nearly as high tech as they are today, and the dollar was a lot stronger.





Wonder what that guy was thinking 1st time up - "Ah,what the hell does this lever do again ?"
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #537 on: May 20, 2018, 08:28:33 PM »
he wasn't thonking, "boy, the stats on ultra-lights are horrible - hope I survive this trip"
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #538 on: July 27, 2018, 09:38:41 PM »
Duane Arnold Energy Center in Palo, Iowa’s sole nuclear power plant, will shut down in late 2020, its owner announced Friday — five years sooner than the current power purchase agreement between NextEra Energy Resources and Alliant Energy.

That agreement, which requires approval from the Iowa Utilities Board, means the plant is expected to cease commercial operations in 2020, NextEra said.

Alliant’s agreement with NextEra originally was set to run until 2025.

“The eventual closing of the Duane Arnold Energy Center is a difficult decision because of the approximately 500 highly skilled men and women who consistently have made it one of the top-performing nuclear facilities in the county,” NextEra’s President and Chief Executive Officer Armando Pimentel said in the release.

Gradual drawdown
Duane Arnold, which first began producing power in 1975, is located about nine miles northwest of Cedar Rapids and is one of the larger employers in Linn County.

Florida-based NextEra said Friday it expects “a gradual reduction in staffing” at Duane Arnold over the next seven years.

The plant currently employs about 540 people, NextEra spokesman Peter Robbins said. NextEra estimates that when the plant shuts down and stops generating power in late 2020, it will need only about 300 employees.


Cheaper sources of energy
Officials for both Alliant and NextEra said the existence of cheaper forms of energy prompted the decision to close Duane Arnold.

Alliant spokesman Justin Foss said the market value of those other sources — primarily renewables such as Iowa’s growing wind portfolio — have dropped below the cost of nuclear generation.

“In our review of the cost for the energy that comes from that facility versus what you can buy it for and generate it for out in the market right now, it will save customers money by not getting it from that facility,” Foss told The Gazette Friday.

As part of the new agreement, Alliant will make a $110 million buyout payment to NextEra in September 2020. That payment, the companies said, will cover the costs of shortening the power purchase agreement by five years.

Alliant said it had planned to submit an application to the Iowa Utilities Board on Friday to receive approval for the buyout. The companies said the move should save Alliant’s customers about $300 million over 21 years, starting in 2020.

Savings for Alliant Energy customers will be reflected in the fuel cost portion of customers’ bills — representing about a three percent monthly savings, or about $42 a year — for residential customers starting in 2021, Foss said. Commercial and industrial customers will see a roughly 2.3 percent fuel cost savings.

NextEra owns a 70 percent stake in Duane Arnold, and 70 percent of the electricity produced there — about 430 megawatts — goes to Alliant. Des Moines-based Central Iowa Power Cooperative, or CIPCO, and Humboldt-based Corn Belt Power Cooperative own 20 percent and 10 percent stakes, respectively.

Under the new agreements, Alliant will purchase about 340 megawatts of energy from four existing NextEra-owned Iowa wind facilities.

“Partially replacing energy from Duane Arnold with NextEra’s additional wind investments in Iowa will bring significant economic benefits to our customers,” Patricia Kampling, chairwoman and chief executive officer of Alliant Energy, said in a Friday news release.

CIPCO, which also has an office in Cedar Rapids, said Friday it has “guarded optimism” about the shutdown of Duane Arnold. The cooperative said 35 percent of its energy portfolio currently comes from the nuclear plant.

“We’re trying to understand how we manage this in the short-term, but we believe long-term this will be a net benefit for us,” CIPCO Chief Executive Officer Bill Cherrier said to The Gazette.

Cherrier said CIPCO believes it will be able to find cheaper sources of energy through wind and other renewable sources.

NextEra also said Friday it expects to invest about $650 million in existing and new renewable generation facilities across Iowa by the end of 2020. About $250 million of that, Robbins said, will come from “re-powering,” or upgrading” NextEra’s existing wind turbines in Iowa.

WHAT HAPPENS AT THE PLANT?

After Duane Arnold shuts down and stops energy production in late 2020, the plant will have to go through a decommissioning process.

That process will include moving fuel rods from the plant’s reactor to a spent fuel pool, where it will cool for four to five years, Robbins explained.

Once the rods are cool, they will be moved to dry storage at Duane Arnold.

It was not clear Friday if or when the nuclear plant site could be redeveloped, given the length of the decommissioning process. NextEra did say it is “evaluating redevelopment opportunities” there, including building new solar energy, battery storage or natural gas facilities.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #539 on: July 30, 2018, 04:38:38 PM »
The ocean plastic is mostly Asian fishing gear apparently.  Little is from the US.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #540 on: July 30, 2018, 06:46:11 PM »
not straws from the San Fran bay area?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #541 on: July 30, 2018, 06:56:17 PM »
I saw that in a Nat Geo article a while back. Cited a percentage just under 50% from fishing gear. They made a disclaimer that it's an extrapolation from limited surveys. I was still surprised as far as expectations go. They inferred that the Japanese tsunami of 2011 rolled a meaningful fraction all on its own.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #542 on: August 05, 2018, 09:11:07 AM »
My French cousins have been complaining about the weather.  The wife gets streaming classical music on a French "station" and they have 5 minutes of news on the hour.  Much of the country is seeing high Ts of 40°C or more.

And homes there are rarely air conditioned, at least in the northern half anyway.

The summer here has been excellent, for me and the wife.  Humidity has been quite low usually and the highest high has been about 92°F, with 50% RH, which is not bad in the shade.

We've had maybe two days where I really suffered being outside for more than 3 minutes.  My wife's best friend is flying up from Brazil in early Sept and my step son and daughter are also visiting from SF and France, so it should be a busy time.  The weather here about then can be still hot of course but also can be in the 80s and pleasant, blue sky, etc.

The wife wants to go to Brazil in November and I just remarked "Well that is football season of course.".

February would be better for me I think.

At least we have a nonstop from here now.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #543 on: August 05, 2018, 09:18:20 AM »
I may have mentioned this before, but I have looked in vain for a "plan" to reduce CO2 emissions that has at least a modicum of detail, like:

1.  How much we must reduce emissions to reach a climate goal of X (using a composite model).
2.  How that can be done by shutting down Y fossil fuel sources and replacing them with whatever.
3.  This would cost $Z over however many years.

I suspect the reason I can't find such an outline is obvious.

What I find instead is glowing articles about how wind and solar have expanded by 194% over the past 5 years, which omits a rather important detail.  And then articles about how Germany has been going backwards despite glowing articles that they produced more power by solar than needed one day whenever.

The attitude by most French folks about nuclear is they don't want to think about it right now.




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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #544 on: August 05, 2018, 01:41:48 PM »
Wow sounds like we've had more 90 deg days here in N.E.Ohio by the lake
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #545 on: August 05, 2018, 02:38:21 PM »
It has been hotter and more humid in Cincy than here nearly every time I checked but one.

It's 91°F here and 53% RH and sunny.  We were headed to the pool but the wife I think took a nap.


 

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