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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6104 on: July 25, 2022, 08:33:17 AM »
A buddy of mine saw one on Lake Lanier, he said it was all white, and as it reached land, a band of dark started and ran up to the cloud layer.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6105 on: July 25, 2022, 08:34:15 AM »
Anybody remember this water spout in Miami, 1997?




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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6106 on: July 25, 2022, 09:17:31 AM »
nope
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6107 on: July 26, 2022, 08:18:44 AM »
Eight years? Nine years? Six years ago? A climate change activist guide to doomsday | Fox News

One issue is this "thing" is very gradual, if you credit the models at all.  Things like sea level and T rises are predicted to be very very gradual, a long term issue, if they are about right, but not something a human would really notice over a couple decades.

And you can't blame every weather event on CC, tecnically speaking.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6108 on: July 26, 2022, 08:55:33 AM »
but, they do

and most of us know it's BS

others believe
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6109 on: July 26, 2022, 08:56:24 AM »
I don't think it's "BS" at all, personally, but I see a ton of exaggeration by politicians out there.

And no PLAN.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6110 on: July 26, 2022, 09:02:20 AM »
just last night, local and national news state that the Oak fire in Cali and the heat wave in the northeast are results of climate change

the line of thunderstorms moving into the northeast today will be blamed on climate change by the media

of the 3 events, one, two, all three, or none maybe results of climate change

unless they are using a different definition of climate change

they have very little idea, but they continue to push the message - that's BS
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6111 on: July 26, 2022, 09:31:14 AM »
Yeah, these are basically political talking heads.  The fact they exaggerate and get it wrong doesn't mean the science itself is worthless and wrong, they just don't know enough about the actual science to talk about it properly.  If they did, it wouldn't seem quite as dramatically dire as they want it to seem so as to get political action.

I've shown this before, it's a projection, and the 8.5 scenario is basically ridiculous and can be ignored.



So, one can see by 2050, sea level rise from today is something nobody could see, it's perhaps barely measurable.  It's around half a meter by 2100, 78 years from now.  That wouldn't be a great thing, but it's ~18 inches, in 78 years, not something where Manhattan is under eleventy feet of water.

I don't see any way the planet gets to net zero by 2050, but probably by 2100 we'll be around that.  This simply isn't calamitous enough to get political action.  So they lie about it.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6112 on: July 26, 2022, 09:54:09 AM »
dont worry POLTUS declared an emergency to address it
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6113 on: July 26, 2022, 09:58:09 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 26, 2022, 09:54:09 AM
dont worry POLTUS declared an emergency to address it
Actually, he didn't.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6114 on: July 26, 2022, 10:02:43 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 26, 2022, 09:54:09 AM
dont worry POLTUS declared an emergency to address it
stop with the exaggerations
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6115 on: July 26, 2022, 10:05:01 AM »
Biden announces new climate programs, but no emergency declaration (cnbc.com)


  • The initiatives include providing $2.3 billion in funding for a program that helps communities prepare for disasters by expanding flood control and retrofitting buildings, as well as leveraging funding to help low-income families cover heating and cooling costs.
  • The president also is directing the Department of the Interior to propose new offshore wind areas in the Gulf of Mexico, a plan that could power more than 3 million homes and advance the transition to clean energy.


This really is pretty lame, just meant to be some political optics.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6116 on: July 26, 2022, 10:14:58 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 26, 2022, 10:02:43 AM
stop with the exaggerations

thats really funny coming from you Mr. Pot
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6117 on: July 26, 2022, 10:16:37 AM »
One side likes to hype the thing into a major urgent crisis.  Another side likes to claim it's not real at all.

I think both are wrong.
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