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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3332 on: August 19, 2020, 07:37:39 AM »
I learned that sex in a lavatory, while novel and interesting, it also often uncomfortable.  It's like a back seat with too many hard things scattered around.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3333 on: August 19, 2020, 03:25:58 PM »
https://phys.org/news/2020-08-global-trends-inconsistent-high-climate.html?fbclid=IwAR1ouHqToENueKN6lsOo7c0Gw1U_NtYJaJt9KBLs2IsnNuRclnNVvnX1pU8

A subset of models even showed that a doubling of CO2 could lead to over 5°C of warming, questioning whether the goals of the Paris agreement are achievable even if nations do everything they can.

The lead author of the study, Ph.D. candidate Femke Nijsse from the University of Exeter, said: "In evaluating the climate models we were able to exploit the fact that thanks to clean air regulation, air pollution in the form of climate-cooling aerosols have stopped increasing worldwide, allowing the greenhouse gas signal to dominate recent warming."
The amount of warming that occurs after CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere are doubled is called the equilibrium climate sensitivity.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3334 on: August 19, 2020, 03:41:54 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 18, 2020, 10:58:07 PM
Another vote for politics over biology.

Thanks for the honest input, fellas.
Eh. I'm not denying biology. I just don't see a lot of benefit in arguing with people over what gender they identify as.

Especially since a lot of them have enough problems in their life, due to not actually "feeling" like they're in the right body. 

 
Quote from: MrNubbz on August 19, 2020, 07:18:00 AM
Well then they'd have to use a Lavatory's that were labeled as "?" or sumsuch.I would think many fathers would have a huge problem these indidviduals to use the same facility as their grade school daughters.Just based on the % of creeps who would infiltrate something they would view as an opportunity - IMO
I suspect this is a much more overblown fear than reality. 

I'm guessing if someone with complete and total cis-gender mannerisms [someone who looks and acts like, well, me] tried to go into a women's lav because they "feel like a lady today", that person would probably get their ass kicked and be called a perv. And rightly so. 

If someone with XY chromosomes and a penis goes through all the trouble to wear long hair, makeup, women's clothes, and generally act in their life like a woman, enjoy the ladies' restroom. You've earned it, ma'am. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3335 on: August 19, 2020, 09:06:14 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on August 19, 2020, 03:41:54 PM
Eh. I'm not denying biology. I just don't see a lot of benefit in arguing with people over what gender they identify as.

Especially since a lot of them have enough problems in their life, due to not actually "feeling" like they're in the right body.



Completely this.  Man, people already have a hard enough time with feeling miserable. No reason to attempt to make it worse.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3336 on: August 19, 2020, 10:56:41 PM »
what does a person's gender have to do with Weather, Climate, and Environment?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3337 on: August 19, 2020, 11:59:52 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 19, 2020, 10:56:41 PM
what does a person's gender have to do with Weather, Climate, and Environment?
He started it.

(I don't remember which one... But it wasn't me.) 
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3338 on: August 20, 2020, 08:10:16 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 19, 2020, 10:56:41 PM
what does a person's gender have to do with Weather, Climate, and Environment?
The heat generated by the discussion contributes to global warming
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3339 on: August 20, 2020, 09:59:28 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on August 19, 2020, 03:41:54 PM
Eh. I'm not denying biology. I just don't see a lot of benefit in arguing with people over what gender they identify as.

Especially since a lot of them have enough problems in their life, due to not actually "feeling" like they're in the right body.

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So "good manners" is the reason that science takes a back seat to politics on this matter for you. That's fine, and doesn't refute my point.

Most folk who "deny science" do so for what they consider to be "good reasons." No group one  a monopoly on the behavior.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3340 on: August 20, 2020, 10:01:33 AM »
I think "good manners" and being considerate is a useful tactic in situations where it really doesn't matter, and any umbrage or whatever you express about a situation to said person is not likely to be productive.

The competition story is different.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3341 on: August 20, 2020, 10:02:32 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 19, 2020, 07:10:28 AM
Not sure what science I'm denying.  The logic here seems to be sexual reproduction is required to have a baby, and that requires a man and a woman, and therefore gay people don't exist.  Boom science.


Dorothy called. She wants her Brainless Straw Man back. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3342 on: August 20, 2020, 10:07:28 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 19, 2020, 10:56:41 PM
what does a person's gender have to do with Weather, Climate, and Environment?

It was offered up as an example of the left playing the role of "science deniers."

There are many others, but that is one that they won't even try to wiggle out of. 

"Person with male anatomy says he's a woman. sounds legit." 

Of course if they actually believed this, then they "should" be just as open to dating one of these people as they would be to dating an actual woman....
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3343 on: August 20, 2020, 10:12:59 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 20, 2020, 10:02:32 AM

Dorothy called. She wants her Brainless Straw Man back.
Well you keep saying people are denying science without offering much science
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3344 on: August 20, 2020, 10:18:56 AM »
I don't even have to. 

You guys don't even try to deny that you believe gender to be a state of mind. 

Your only defense is to try to muddy the waters, and pretend that that's somehow not the same thing as denying science. 

Some of you even attack some straw man argument that you invented out of thin air about gays not existing because they don't have babies, or some such. I cannot even remember exactly how it went, because it was so breathtakingly dishonest and stupid. 
 
All that any of that does is prove my point. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3345 on: August 20, 2020, 11:18:50 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 20, 2020, 10:18:56 AM
I don't even have to.

You guys don't even try to deny that you believe gender to be a state of mind.

Your only defense is to try to muddy the waters, and pretend that that's somehow not the same thing as denying science.

Some of you even attack some straw man argument that you invented out of thin air about gays not existing because they don't have babies, or some such. I cannot even remember exactly how it went, because it was so breathtakingly dishonest and stupid.
 
All that any of that does is prove my point.
So, you have no facts, and no science, because being trans is a "state of mind" so you don't need any. But being gay is clearly not a "state of mind" and it's stupid to compare the two?
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