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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #770 on: March 19, 2019, 09:37:19 AM »
What about the barrier islands off the Atlantic coast?  Would it make sense to build nice beach homes on sand there?

Somewhere I read many of them are only 10,000 years old, and most are shifting south or north rapidly.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #771 on: March 19, 2019, 09:49:47 AM »
I wouldn't touch that. There are plenty of places to build homes, without that risk. Sand flows.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #772 on: March 19, 2019, 10:46:10 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 19, 2019, 09:00:43 AM
Speaking of weather, sometimes it rains here, a lot:
CD was that picture taken from your condo?
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« Reply #773 on: March 19, 2019, 11:08:22 AM »
No, I found it on line.  I look outside my office and see the park.

https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x88f504395064ac19:0xf3aeea4ef52f350e!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipP4liIZyYwRU3o6H4r52Dy8pyQtndJc3ucLelKe%3Dw363-h240-k-no!5spiedmont+park+-+Google+Search&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipP4liIZyYwRU3o6H4r52Dy8pyQtndJc3ucLelKe&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjm8fjGvY7hAhUFPN8KHYGjD14QoiowFnoECAQQBg
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That's a view from the park looking back our way.  I'll be over there soon once it warms up a bit.  



That is where I jog, around the fields.  It used to be a horse track back in the day.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #774 on: March 19, 2019, 11:11:32 AM »


The "Connector" (freeway) is to our west about 10 blocks or so.  Fortunately I can snag a feeder road to get on I-75 north.  If I have to go south I usually wend my way through back streets.  The proximity to the park really sold us on this place.  



Parks are good, I'm donating to their conservancy in addition to picking up trash when I go.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #775 on: March 19, 2019, 11:35:09 AM »
Quote from: MichiFan87 on March 18, 2019, 09:31:51 PM
As for environmental impact, the amount of birds killed by wind turbines is negligible compared to tall buildings, air pollution, house cats / other predators, and other factors. Countless studies have shown this despite what the conservative media says.
Negligible numbers, countless studies, and conservative media notwithstanding, the first site listed when I googled "how many birds do wind turbines kill" is the Audubon Society, which estimates 180,000 to 328,000 birds killed by wind farms in North America each year.
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« Reply #776 on: March 19, 2019, 11:35:35 AM »


This is a nice one looking SW with midtown down to where that tall spire is and then downtown beyond that.  The spire is the Bank of America building.  This must be 2-3 years old now.  
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #777 on: March 19, 2019, 11:42:30 AM »
This is something I've mentioned before, a simple but brilliant concept that has succeeded beyond anyone's imaginings I suspect, still under construction:



The "Beltline" is a 23 mile loop around downtown and midtown, some of which is to get light rail someday.  Right now it's just a concrete paved path and the amount of new construction going up near it is amazing to me.  It runs just to the east of the Park above.

https://beltline.org/

There are new restaurants popping up all along it, you can sit on the patio and eat and drink and people watch, a bit like San Antonio without the water.  It has to be paying off for the city big time.

https://www.atlanta.net/things-to-do/outdoors/beltline/

On weekends, it's almost something to avoid because it gets so crowded.  We use it to walk over to Ponce City Market and restaurants near there.

https://poncecitymarket.com/

That is the old (1926) Sears building.  When we first moved here that was THE Sears, the only one in town.  On weekends it's a total packed mess, but it's not bad on weekdays.

I like it here, you may be getting the notion.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #778 on: March 19, 2019, 01:53:26 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on March 19, 2019, 11:35:09 AM
Negligible numbers, countless studies, and conservative media notwithstanding, the first site listed when I googled "how many birds do wind turbines kill" is the Audubon Society, which estimates 180,000 to 328,000 birds killed by wind farms in North America each year.
I won't say that isn't a large number, but looking at it on its own is not very informative. Which isn't to say to you are being sensational; just that this isn't enough to have a productive conversation. For ex: What are the bird populations in North America? How many are killed by other means, such as striking other structures? And what would be the numbers on bird/animal killings if the energy produced by wind farms were produced by something dirtier instead -- both short term (pollution) and long term (climate change)? 
Comparisons, trends, and clusters of numbers do more to tell us about the real world than one data point in a vacuum.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #779 on: March 19, 2019, 02:05:15 PM »
I know reflective glass in office buildings(to save energy) takes out a lot of birds
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #780 on: March 19, 2019, 08:30:01 PM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on March 19, 2019, 01:53:26 PM
I won't say that isn't a large number, but looking at it on its own is not very informative. Which isn't to say to you are being sensational; just that this isn't enough to have a productive conversation. For ex: What are the bird populations in North America? How many are killed by other means, such as striking other structures? And what would be the numbers on bird/animal killings if the energy produced by wind farms were produced by something dirtier instead -- both short term (pollution) and long term (climate change)?
Comparisons, trends, and clusters of numbers do more to tell us about the real world than one data point in a vacuum.
I agree.
But I never compared or implied a comparison.  I just posted that a percentage of migratory birds who fly through wind farms are killed.  Apparently this is true.
That was in support of my point that while wind energy doesn't add CO2 to the atmosphere, it does have environmental impacts.
I didn't see that as a controversial point.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #781 on: March 19, 2019, 10:04:04 PM »
Ah, cool. If you didn't mean it as controversial, then I don't see a controversy either.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #782 on: March 20, 2019, 12:18:15 PM »
There's something everyday people could do that would help in a small way--stop drinking bottled water.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #783 on: March 20, 2019, 12:27:46 PM »
I'll drink to that.
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