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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6272 on: August 08, 2022, 12:51:57 PM »
A thing I would have expected with warmer water temps is an earlier more active season.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6273 on: August 08, 2022, 01:44:53 PM »
Saharan dust has been very active this year. It really knocks down those storms.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6274 on: August 08, 2022, 02:14:12 PM »
Weather Underground (wunderground.com)

Saharan dust can affect hurricane activity in several ways:

  • Dust acts as a shield which keeps sunlight from reaching the surface. Thus, large amounts of dust can keep the sea surface temperatures up to 1°C cooler than average in the hurricane Main Development Region (MDR) from the coast of Africa to the Caribbean, providing hurricanes with less energy to form and grow.
  • The Saharan Air Layer (SAL) is a layer of dry, dusty Saharan air that rides up over the low-level moist air over the tropical Atlantic. At the boundary between the SAL and low-level moist air where the trade winds blow is the trade wind inversion--a region of the atmosphere where the temperature increases with height. Since atmospheric temperature normally decreases with height, this "inversion" acts to but the brakes on any thunderstorms that try to punch through it. This happens because the air in a thunderstorm's updraft suddenly encounters a region where the updraft air is cooler and less buoyant than the surrounding air, and thus will not be able to keep moving upward. The dust in the SAL absorbs solar radiation, which heats the air in the trade wind inversion. This makes the inversion stronger, which inhibits the thunderstorms that power a hurricane.
  • Dust may also act to produce more clouds, but this effect needs much more study. If the dust particles are of the right size to serve as "condensation nuclei"--centers around which raindrops can form and grow--the dust can act to make more clouds. Thus, dust could potentially aid in the formation and intensification of hurricanes. However, if the dust acts to make more low-level clouds over the tropical Atlantic, this will reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the ocean, cooling the sea surface temperatures and discouraging hurricane formation (Kaufman et al., 2005.)




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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6276 on: August 08, 2022, 03:06:38 PM »
Let's go dust!!
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6277 on: August 08, 2022, 03:18:03 PM »
It makes sense of course, but when doing hurricane predictions, as they attempt each year, it seems the dust prediction part has to be involved, if one can predict dust.

I presume it relates to westerly winds over the Sahara (duh) which peak in some years, or not.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6278 on: August 08, 2022, 03:43:38 PM »
Sahara dust kept a hard lid on the 2017 season early on. Then it backed off and Irma, Jose, and Maria blasted their way across the northeast Caribbean. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6279 on: August 08, 2022, 03:50:32 PM »
Irma hit pretty hard here.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6280 on: August 08, 2022, 04:59:25 PM »
So, one could expect the season to pick up soonish, right?  The dust abates and the storms awaits?

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6281 on: August 08, 2022, 05:05:37 PM »
Not worried. 

I put in a generator for the whole house. 

847's Law states that we will never again have a hurricane hit here.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6282 on: August 08, 2022, 05:09:33 PM »
Yeah, me and a neighbor bought a snow blower many years back and decided it was a great expense as we had almost no snow that year.  I think the effect wears down over time.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6283 on: August 09, 2022, 08:33:04 AM »
Tucked deep in the millions of words that make up the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 are incentives for the production of sustainable aviation fuel. The much-vaunted economic and climate action bill was passed by the Senate on Sunday and the $1.25-$1.75 in credits (depending on how green they are in terms of inputs and process) should make it more attractive for producers to get the fuel to market. Whether the credits will be reflected at the pumps isn’t clear, but the National Air Transport Association applauded passage of legislation.

NATA CEO Tim Obitts said the tax credits are “a crucial first step toward meeting the Biden Administration’s SAF Grand Challenge goal of three billion gallons of domestically produced SAF by 2030.” He said the next step is to tackle the regulatory and bureaucratic roadblocks impeding the industry. “We encourage Congress to work just as diligently to equip federal agencies, including EPA, with the necessary tools to support SAF production in line with industry demand,” Obitts said.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6284 on: August 09, 2022, 08:36:12 AM »
Tucked deep in the millions of words that make up the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 are incentives for the production of sustainable aviation fuel. The much-vaunted economic and climate action bill was passed by the Senate on Sunday and the $1.25-$1.75 in credits (depending on how green they are in terms of inputs and process) should make it more attractive for producers to get the fuel to market. Whether the credits will be reflected at the pumps isn’t clear, but the National Air Transport Association applauded passage of legislation.

NATA CEO Tim Obitts said the tax credits are “a crucial first step toward meeting the Biden Administration’s SAF Grand Challenge goal of three billion gallons of domestically produced SAF by 2030.” He said the next step is to tackle the regulatory and bureaucratic roadblocks impeding the industry. “We encourage Congress to work just as diligently to equip federal agencies, including EPA, with the necessary tools to support SAF production in line with industry demand,” Obitts said.

Good luck there, Skippy. 
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6285 on: August 09, 2022, 09:27:20 AM »
It's known technology of course to make bioDiesel from spent cooking oil, fine.  I'm not sure there is enough cooking oil around to fuel aircraft for very long.

Jets burn Kerosene, which is somewhat the same as Diesel.


 

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