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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6118 on: July 26, 2022, 10:19:21 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 26, 2022, 10:16:37 AM
One side likes to hype the thing into a major urgent crisis.  Another side likes to claim it's not real at all.

I think both are wrong.
I dont think anyone doubts the climate changes but whether or not man is responsible
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6119 on: July 26, 2022, 10:20:59 AM »
so if Biden didnt declare an emergency on climate whats this?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/06/06/declaration-of-emergency-and-authorization-for-temporary-extensions-of-time-and-duty-free-importation-of-solar-cells-and-modules-from-southeast-asia/

  NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including by section 318(a) of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended, 19 U.S.C. 1318(a), do hereby declare an emergency to exist with respect to the threats to the availability of sufficient electricity generation capacity to meet expected customer demand.  Pursuant to this declaration, I hereby direct as follows:
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6120 on: July 26, 2022, 10:21:41 AM »
I'm pretty confident, myself, that human activity is causing a lot of the climate changing that is happening.  I rather hope the models are wrong on the right side, I know they are wrong.  It could be worse than they predict also.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6121 on: July 26, 2022, 10:23:04 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 26, 2022, 10:20:59 AM
so if Biden didnt declare an emergency on climate whats this?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/06/06/declaration-of-emergency-and-authorization-for-temporary-extensions-of-time-and-duty-free-importation-of-solar-cells-and-modules-from-southeast-asia/

  NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including by section 318(a) of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended, 19 U.S.C. 1318(a), do hereby declare an emergency to exist with respect to the threats to the availability of sufficient electricity generation capacity to meet expected customer demand.  Pursuant to this declaration, I hereby direct as follows:
That's a minor thing relating to import tariffs, it's not a "climate emergency" of the kind expected.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6122 on: July 26, 2022, 10:44:11 AM »
so declaring an emergency on climate is really not declaring an emergency on climate if its about tariffs

sounds reasonable to me
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6123 on: July 26, 2022, 10:45:49 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 26, 2022, 10:21:41 AM
I'm pretty confident, myself, that human activity is causing a lot of the climate changing that is happening.  I rather hope the models are wrong on the right side, I know they are wrong.  It could be worse than they predict also.


There has never been a mystery as to your beliefs CD
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6124 on: July 26, 2022, 10:47:42 AM »
It's a declaration of energy emergency, not a declaration of climate emergency.

The proposed solution is solar and you can make of that what you will, but I'm not seeing the language that you are interpreting  as some sort of declaration of climate emergency.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6125 on: July 26, 2022, 11:21:41 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 26, 2022, 10:47:42 AM
It's a declaration of energy emergency, not a declaration of climate emergency.

The proposed solution is solar and you can make of that what you will, but I'm not seeing the language that you are interpreting  as some sort of declaration of climate emergency.
Its because their solution is solar that its obvious that this is part of their green agenda which is tied to climate change

But tech it is declaring an energy emergency

First cut oil production then declare an emergency to obtain more solar equipment

it all comes back to the green movement
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6126 on: July 26, 2022, 11:31:11 AM »
US oil production is headed up rather strongly, and will be setting records next year.  We may reach the 2019 record late this year.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6127 on: July 26, 2022, 11:32:25 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 26, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
US oil production is headed up rather strongly, and will be setting records next year.  We may reach the 2019 record late this year.
Yup
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6128 on: July 26, 2022, 11:33:15 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 26, 2022, 10:45:49 AM
There has never been a mystery as to your beliefs CD
I've said before, I made an earnest attempt to read the technical literature on this topic, something probably few do.  It's complex.  I'm not a fan of the models very much at all, but I do think the evidence for anthrogenic climate change is pretty compelling.

I find most on both sides evidence little real understanding of the topic and don't make any effort to learn about it.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6129 on: July 26, 2022, 11:42:10 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 26, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
US oil production is headed up rather strongly, and will be setting records next year.  We may reach the 2019 record late this year.
good news for the Lone Star State
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6130 on: July 26, 2022, 11:47:45 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 26, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
US oil production is headed up rather strongly, and will be setting records next year.  We may reach the 2019 record late this year.
I'll believe it when I see it

and if it happens we will need to replenish or emergency reserve and stop selling it to lower gas prices
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #6131 on: July 26, 2022, 11:52:56 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 26, 2022, 11:42:10 AM
good news for the Lone Star State
Already good news here, lots of folks start pumping when the price reaches 90 or so.

My buddy who owns a couple of oil wells in South Texas that were mostly idle during the 90s and 2000s, bought himself a $3M house in Central Austin for cash, during the LAST high-price period.

Now he's looking at island beachfront property in the Caribbean.
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