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Topic: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy

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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2954 on: May 26, 2020, 07:12:56 PM »
In the Ambrose book about the transcontinental RR, he noted that the Chinese drank weak tea and had fresh food brought in and thus stayed quite healthy as a rule.  The Chinese workers were awesome, apparently.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2955 on: May 26, 2020, 07:51:34 PM »
Most groups who are brought in for the hardest work who are barely recognized as human and will be killed if they stink at the task they're given are usually very good workers.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2956 on: May 26, 2020, 08:00:50 PM »
Most groups who are brought in for the hardest work who are barely recognized as human and will be killed if they stink at the task they're given are usually very good workers.
The snark doesn't work quite as well if you say "groups who willingly cross the world's largest ocean seeking work because there's nothing but war, famine and pestilence in their homelands."
I will now introduce a shade of gray.  The Chinese got treated miserably, disproportionately by Irish-Americans who at most were one generation removed from stepping off the boat themselves.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2957 on: May 26, 2020, 08:01:45 PM »
It's not a snark if the other side of the "conversation" is the "why" behind the abuse.  
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« Reply #2958 on: May 26, 2020, 08:20:22 PM »
Maybe this has been brought up already.

Amazon has to be one of the worst offenders in producing packaging trash.  I saw a model railroading video today where a guy ordered one little jar of model paint from Amazon.


It came in a heavy-duty corrugated cardboard box that could have held a bowling ball, filled with styrofoam popcorn.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2959 on: June 04, 2020, 12:12:13 PM »
https://theconversation.com/hydrogen-cars-wont-overtake-electric-vehicles-because-theyre-hampered-by-the-laws-of-science-139899

All the same, I think hydrogen fuel cells are a flawed concept. I do think hydrogen will play a significant role in achieving net zero carbon emissions by replacing natural gas in industrial and domestic heating. But I struggle to see how hydrogen can compete with electric vehicles, and this view has been reinforced by two recent pronouncements

A report by BloombergNEF concluded:

The bulk of the car, bus and light-truck market looks set to adopt [battery electric technology], which are a cheaper solution than fuel cells.

Volkswagen, meanwhile, made a statement comparing the energy efficiency of the technologies. “The conclusion is clear” said the company. “In the case of the passenger car, everything speaks in favour of the battery and practically nothing speaks in favour of hydrogen.”
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2960 on: June 04, 2020, 12:42:26 PM »
I still wonder at the capability of battery production to scale to meet widespread demand... I'm not an expert on lithium mining, battery recycling, etc... So I'm not saying it doesn't scale. 

But I wonder... If you wanted to get, say, 80%+ of worldwide annual new car sales to be BEV, is that achievable?

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2961 on: June 04, 2020, 01:15:31 PM »
Hydrogen will displace natural gas eventually, but the only transportation uses for it are likely shipping and maybe freight transportation. In general, electrification is the more likely solution to displacing oil & gas than using hydrogen, biofuels, or anything else like that. That said, waste-to-hydrogen is getting a lot of attention recently.

Differently battery technologies will become economic eventually. Zinc8 is the latest company getting attention, but it's anyone's guess which ones win out. In the short term, commercializing other energy storage technologies on the grid-scale is more likely and I'd argue more important, whether that's EnergyVault, FormEnergy or something else.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2962 on: June 04, 2020, 01:29:04 PM »
I would agree batteries are going to be preferred over fuel cells in most applications. 

https://techxplore.com/news/2020-06-hydrogen-cars-wont-electric-vehicles.html?fbclid=IwAR3nA5NOuEbqrcfR0v9GU4OztBGXVUZCClcmoBDCP62OYoG1qn6xDkn_mVU

NG will be around for a long long time, coal, probably not so much.

Aircraft pose an interesting challenge.  A company I know is working on electric taxiing, the electricity coming from a smallish generator on board that powers utilities and the motors on the wheels.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2963 on: June 05, 2020, 02:08:41 PM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/19/854760999/traffic-is-way-down-due-to-lockdowns-but-air-pollution-not-so-much

Discussion of why the economic shut down did less for air pollution reduction than you might have expected.

Unmentioned is the role of trees in all of this.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2964 on: June 05, 2020, 04:18:24 PM »
Maybe it's the fires and the tear gas.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2965 on: June 07, 2020, 10:10:13 AM »
In weather news, it's pretty much summer here, late afternoon showers are becoming common (and welcome), highs in the mid to upper 80s, it can be sunny and an hour later be pouring rain.  The area around us has many historical markers, mostly about some brigade moving from here to there in 1864.  I try and visualize what any of that was like back then, the weather would have been hot of course as Sherman marched south.  It's an interesting campaign as Johnston tried to block Sherman and isolate on one of his corps, but never could pull it off, which suggests to me that it is very difficult to manage an army of 50,000 or so men to get them to do what you want when you want it.  Sherman was able to lever Johnston from a prepared line time and time again until Kennesaw Mountain, and after that battle Sherman flanked Johnston again and forced him to fall back, always falling back, which made Jeff Davis angrier.

I don't know what would have happened of course had Johnston been left in charge, probably more falling back, as he really lacked the resources to fight Sherman's army, and could have ended up encircled in Atlanta.  Maybe CWS knows.  I know it must have been hot.

Sherman IMHO was one helluva general.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2966 on: June 07, 2020, 05:29:54 PM »
In other news, May was the hottest May on record.

This all but guarantees that 2020 will be the hottest year ever recorded, and significantly so.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #2967 on: June 07, 2020, 05:43:02 PM »
Sherman IMHO was one helluva general.
Yes he was as - Shelby Foote noted maybe the 1st real modern General.He said something along the lines of "war is cruelty,the crueler it is the sooner it will be over." makes sense.My nephew lives down in the Atl with his wife/kids - says they've really done a lot with the place since Uncle Billy last came thru
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

 

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