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Topic: Wanted some help on all-time teams

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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2022, 05:51:49 PM »
I'm all for including the old-timey guys, but the stats just aren't there.  I wish college football people cared as much about stats as baseball fellows did back then.
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2022, 08:48:29 PM »
Doesn't help that a typical QB line was 4-11-89-1-1.

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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2022, 11:02:22 PM »
Yeah, but generally, it's a sliding scale of comp% and yards per attempt.  That's acceptable, if not preferable.

But in many cases, it's that the stats simply don't exist.  That's what bothers me.  Tennessee had a badass RB back in like 1939 and in every blurb about him, it says he STILL has the all-time rushing TDs mark for the Vols.  That's amazing!  But are there ANY sources with number of carries?  Yardage?  No.  Not on stat sites, not in UT's media guide, nowhere.

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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2022, 11:03:29 PM »
For ND, I simply cannot include Ismail in their receiving group, but I'm replacing Eifert with Jim Seymour. 
With all things equal, I'm including a variety of eras.
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2022, 06:14:43 PM »
Hey, @Drew4UTk 

If you were buying a game with all-time Tennessee players, would you be happier with A or B below:
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A)
RB 
Travis Henry
James Stewart
Johnny Majors
Hank Lauricella
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WR
Joey Kent
Marcus Nash
Peerless Price
Tim McGee
Larry Seivers
Jason Witten
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B)
RB
Arian Foster
Travis Henry
Johnny Majors
Jamal Lewis
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WR
Joey Kent
Peerless Price
Alvin Harper
Carl Pickens
Willie Gault
Jason Witten
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2022, 12:53:59 AM »
B but swap out Witten for Kelly Washington. 

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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2022, 02:03:51 AM »
I'm wanting to include a TE with these all-time teams.  Do you think that's folly?
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2022, 10:08:12 AM »
No you're right.  Washington misses the list, it's just when that dude was hot he was unstoppable.  He didn't get hot that often.  .... but when he did... 

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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2022, 03:18:10 PM »
Doesn't help that a typical QB line was 4-11-89-1-1.

Which is why passer rating is awful, it very much overvalues completion percentage at the expense of ypa, not translating to an era (particularly in the NFL) when guys complete passes at an unfathomable rate to past generations.

I think Kirk Cousins is top 10 all-time in NFL passer rating, lol

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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2022, 06:19:02 PM »
No you're right.  Washington misses the list, it's just when that dude was hot he was unstoppable.  He didn't get hot that often.  .... but when he did...
He's in the group of players like Lawrence Phillips in my mind that just seemed like grown men on the field.  Other guys that come to mind like that were OU TE Gresham, USC S Taylor Mays, OU RB Adrian Peterson, UF LB Javon Kearse, etc.  Whether they were merely very good or all-time great, they just looked fully-developed compared to everyone else.
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2022, 06:25:12 PM »
I think Kirk Cousins is top 10 all-time in NFL passer rating, lol
Unrelated, but Frank Gore is 3rd on the all-time rushing list.  
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2022, 09:41:37 PM »
OU RB Adrian Peterson, were merely very good or all-time great, they just looked fully-developed compared to everyone else.
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2022, 04:52:14 PM »
The top 4 FSU QBs All-Time, chosen by me, all have surnames beginning with W.
Ward
Winston
Weinke
Weldon
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On another note, does anyone have anything to share about Gary Huff?  Early 70s FSU QB.  
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Re: Wanted some help on all-time teams
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2022, 05:34:13 PM »
OU RB Adrian Peterson, were merely very good or all-time great, they just looked fully-developed compared to everyone else.
yeah, I'm going to have to just go off my eye test....Adrian Peterson is one of the very greatest RB's to ever touch a football.

 

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