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Topic: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread

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grillrat

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2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« on: December 01, 2024, 03:03:04 PM »
« Last Edit: December 01, 2024, 03:14:35 PM by ELA »

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2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2024, 03:03:06 PM »
Burn.It.To.The.Ground.

That's it. 

Purdue has some talent. Not enough. But enough that they shouldn't go 1-11 in completely embarrassing fashion, with their sole win being a drubbing of a sub-.500 FCS team. Enough that their "best win" shouldn't be taking Illinois to overtime. Enough that the coach needs to be fired--which thankfully has already happened. Because you may not be a CFP team with Purdue's talent, but 1-11 is a coaching failure. 

But that's not all. Purdue has to embrace NIL and the transfer portal in a way that I don't think they've even attempted. The juxtaposition against the Indiana Hoosiers, perennial doormat, is too much. This is a team that went from 3-9 last year to 11-1 based on the transfer portal, who curb-stomped the Boilers in a 66-0 drubbing that shows that Purdue needs a culture change.

In the old era of college football, Purdue and Indiana knew their place. You can't out-recruit helmets. The best you can hope for is to be the plucky underdog and fight for bowls. But bowls are worthless now and college football is all about the CFP. So it's put up or shut up time. You're either all in or you might as well not have a team--an idea that's been around Purdue too long, with a previous AD (Morgan Burke) suggesting Purdue wasn't going to join the arms race. 

No. Screw that. Join the arms race and commit, or give up. 

Because fans won't bother watching this crap. I was watching UT/A&M before the 2nd quarter of the Purdue game started yesterday. 

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2024, 03:04:38 PM »
Beat you by literally 2 seconds.  ;)

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Re: Walter's officially fired
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2024, 03:14:24 PM »
66-0 to Indiana had to be the nail in the coffin.  I thought he'd survive, but that's rough

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2024, 03:18:21 PM »
Beat you by literally 2 seconds.  ;)
Stupid me waiting until after I did my workouts this morning :57:

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2024, 03:33:19 PM »
well, Indiana was pretty good
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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2024, 03:39:19 PM »
66-0 good?

MSU and already fired their coaching staff, and Michigan was national title good last year, and it was 49-0.  Indiana should NEVER be 66-0 better than Purdue

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2024, 03:48:46 PM »
Indiana should NEVER be 56-7 better than Nebraska

37 points better than MSU
 

but, here we are
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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2024, 04:00:49 PM »
Indiana should NEVER be 56-7 better than Nebraska

37 points better than MSU
 

but, here we are
Correct, but Nebraska isn't judged by how they do against Indiana

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2024, 04:03:34 PM »
well, Indiana was pretty good
But that's the point. We all know Indiana played a Charmin schedule. We all know that they're gonna get smoked in the CFP. 

But if the perennial doormat of the Big Ten can go from 3-9 one year to blowing out "big brother" Purdue (Purdue leads the Old Oaken Bucket series 77-43-6) in a 66-0 shutout the next, going 11-1 and getting a CFP berth... Well, that's a point that leads to staring into the mirror and making some changes. 

Firing Walters was necessary, but not sufficient. A mere coaching change will not fix this. The program needs to examine its culture and commitment to winning, and act in ways that it has never needed to do before, to fix this. 

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2024, 04:13:50 PM »
Correct, but Nebraska isn't judged by how they do against Indiana
I get the in-state thing, but,...........

if you're being judged by how you do against Indiana, there's no sense firing a coach that hasn't had 4 seasons
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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2024, 04:33:45 PM »
I get the in-state thing, but,...........

if you're being judged by how you do against Indiana, there's no sense firing a coach that hasn't had 4 seasons
I agree, generally.  Particularly because the whole program building thing is out the window.  It's a year to year sport now.  Not quite as much as college basketball, but enough that there is no such thing as program trajectory, and no more risk that another bad year just puts you farther behind the 8 ball in recruiting

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2024, 04:34:42 PM »
I get the in-state thing, but,...........

if you're being judged by how you do against Indiana, there's no sense firing a coach that hasn't had 4 seasons
Well, you're judged by more than that at Purdue. Like not giving up the worst loss in program history, and then beating your own new record in the same damn season. 

But I think the new college football scenario isn't that you need to give a coach 3-4 seasons "to get his own guys". Prime and Cignetti have proven that it's not about recruiting HS kids. It's about recruiting portal free agents. 

Walters hasn't proven he can coach up who he's got, and hasn't proven that he can pull from the transfer portal. Admittedly, the latter issue may be due to lack of NIL commitment... Which is why I say firing him is necessary but not sufficient. 

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Re: 2025 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2024, 05:44:15 PM »
Well, you're judged by more than that at Purdue. Like not giving up the worst loss in program history, and then beating your own new record in the same damn season.

I'll agree with this
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