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Topic: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?

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Hoss

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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2019, 02:48:51 PM »
I am not convinced it is a foregone conclusion that Penn State would have beaten either Colorado or Miami, depending on circumstances. Both were exceptional on one side of the ball, just like Penn State. JMO. 
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2019, 02:50:13 PM »
Are we going to bother going through this for 1995?  :34:
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2019, 02:54:40 PM »
The final New York Times computer ranking, in a shift that had not been foreseen because of Nebraska's victory over Miami, named Penn State the No. 1 team by the closest margin since 1990. The computer's selection of Penn State marked the sixth time in The Times's 16 rankings that the No. 1 team differed from the champion selected by the A.P. voters.

https://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/04/sports/college-football-nebraska-is-no-1-as-lions-settle-for-perfect-season.html
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2019, 03:09:17 PM »
Fixing the Final 1994 AP College Football Poll

The fixed final AP top 25 follows the article below.

Poor ol' Joe Paterno. For the 4th time in his career, he fielded a team that went unbeaten, untied, and uncrowned. That's some bad luck. Or an atrociously bad system for a major sport. Take your pick.

Of course, Penn State is only uncrowned if you rely on the major polls for your "championships." Mythical national championships are in the eye of the beholder, and this beholder views Penn State and Nebraska as co-champions for 1994. But who should be #1?

The AP poll got this one right. Stuck in the Rose Bowl, Penn State fell just short of defeating a top ten opponent this season. And they had 2 close wins (touchdown or less), while Nebraska had 1. And that one close game for Nebraska came over #3 Miami-Florida on their home field, where the Hurricanes had only lost once in ten years.


Er, at least Miami was #3 at the time the game was played. But I guess losing a close game to a 4th quarter rally from the #1 team made the AP voters reconsider quite a bit, because I see that the 'Canes dropped all the way to #6. Does that seem odd to you? Seems odd to me. Let's take a closer look at it...

http://www.tiptop25.com/fixing1994.html
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2019, 03:17:16 PM »
For PSU - Collins,Carter and Brady went in the 1st 10 picks of the next NFL draft.Skers weren't picked in the 1st - nothing's a slam dunk
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2019, 03:36:43 PM »
What offensive skill players for UNL graduated in 1994?   =)

I'll help with one hint..... a FB.
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2019, 03:39:01 PM »
A new report suggests that Tom Osborne tried to plan a Penn State vs. Nebraska bowl matchup in 1994, when both the Nittany Lions and the Cornhuskers were undefeated, but Joe Paterno stopped Osborne in his tracks.

https://pittsburgh.sbnation.com/penn-st-nittany-lions/2012/6/6/3068366/joe-paterno-tom-osborne-penn-state-vs-nebraska-1994

I believe this, because Tom was tired of playing Miami on their home field
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2019, 03:39:12 PM »
Colorado had two 1st round picks off their 1994 team, and we beat them handily.

Maybe the 3rd one makes all the diff tho. 
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2019, 03:52:20 PM »
Buff's TE was taken with the 7th pick in the 2nd round

in the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft

PSU had 3 taken

UNL had 3 taken

Colorado had 6

Ohio State had 7

Thru all 7 rounds of the draft

Huskers 7 players

Lions 5 players

Buffs 9 players
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2019, 03:56:14 PM »
Ki-Jana Carter had 1,144 yards in the NFL in 8 seasons

Lawrence Phillips had 1,453 in 4 seasons

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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2019, 04:15:55 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 24, 2019, 12:59:28 PM
Thanks for the correction.  But I also think those Indiana and Illinois games prevented the Coaches Poll from giving Penn State a piece of the NC.  
No doubt about that.  Of course the other thing that hurt Penn State was that this happened during the BCA (remember that) era.  
For those who don't remember, the BCA was the precursor to the BCS.  Prior to the BCA the bowls each chose their own participants but signings were conducted before the end of the season.  Sometimes a bowl would sign what looked (at the time) like a monster 1v2 game but then one of the two would lose a game or two and it would end up being 1v10 or whatever.  
The BCA was a step on the way to the BCS.  Essentially the BCA was the BCS without the Big11Ten and PacTen which were both still tied to the RoseBowl.  Consequently, in 1994 the BCA arranged to match #1 Nebraska against the highest ranked available opponent which was #3 Miami.  Meanwhile #2 Penn State was the Big11Ten Champion so they went to the RoseBowl to play the PacTen Champion, #12 Oregon.  
That made it nearly impossible for Penn State to pass Nebraska without the Cornhuskers losing.  Even if Penn State HAD completely dominated the Ducks (they really didn't), it really wouldn't have mattered because the Ducks just weren't respected in the way the the Hurricanes were.  
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2019, 07:42:57 PM »
Yes, the Big Ten is the reason we didn't have more #1 vs #2 national championship games.  
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2019, 07:52:27 PM »
Quote from: Hoss on January 24, 2019, 02:50:13 PM
Are we going to bother going through this for 1995?  :34:
Of course we are, because in this exercise, the Fiesta Bowl didn't happen.  Yes, it's rare that the #2 team beat #3 and #4 in the regular season, but hey, maybe FSU would be a bad matchup for Nebraska.  You never know.  
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Re: VOTE - Who would have won the 1994 CFP?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2019, 07:59:42 PM »
many football smart guys thought offensive genius Spurrier and the team speed of the gators was a bad matchup for the outdated option offense and the plow boys

but, they couldn't have been more wrong
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