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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #3178 on: January 05, 2026, 10:57:44 AM »
Playing division rivals twice is one of the things the NFL has correct.  Generates more hate and more interest.  Changing that would be... silly.
Yep. And that's also important and gives extra weight to winning your division. Divisional games can make or break your record, especially in the relative sense, because every divisional loss is a divisional win for your rivals. 

This is something you really can't do with 10+ team conferences and a 12-game regular season, but 4-team divisions and a 17-game regular season gives you plenty of time for double-plays against your own division. 


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« Reply #3179 on: January 05, 2026, 11:19:06 AM »
Example of a very poorly-designed postseason:

12-5 Rams
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8-9 Panthers
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Yes, the NFL is the #1 sport in our country.  Yes, everyone knew the rules going in.
That doesn't mean it's a sane system. 
It's actively bad.

Hopefully college football doesn't do the same (despite last year's top 4 seeds...)
Yet the 6+2 model that you prescribed (3-team superconferences of 20 teams each, broken into 2 divisions, every division winner gets an automatic berth) would certainly end up with teams who are the equivalent of those 8-9 Panthers. 

Yeah, those teams would probably be no worse than say 9-3 or 8-4, but in the non-parity world of CFB relative to the NFL where teams play a lot of patsies, 9-3 in CFB is basically the equivalent of being about a 0.500 team in the NFL. 

In 2000, Purdue won the B1G with an 8-3, 6-2 record. They won it by virtue of a 3-way tie with Michigan and Northwestern (who they defeated H2H). They had two bad losses (PSU and MSU, who both finished with a losing record. Yes, that wasn't a full round-robin schedule in 2000 as it was 8 conference games and an 11-team conference, but the teams they missed were Iowa and Illinois who both finished with losing records. They were ranked in the top 10 for only one week all season, at #9. 

Had the 2000 Boilermakers been in your system, I'm sure it would have generated some grumbling about an "unworthy" CFP team considering this was the final pre-bowl poll:



Purdue was 13th in the AP, 14th in the Coaches, and outside the top 15 in the final BCS standings. If we assume the old conference system the other 5 conference champs were Oklahoma (B12), Miami (bEast), FSU (ACC), Florida (SEC), and Washington (P10). 

You're telling me that you don't think there'd be grumbling about "unworthy" 8-3 Purdue being given a CFP berth instead of making enough room for teams like 10-1 Oregon State, 10-1 VT, 9-2 Nebraska, 9-2 Notre Dame (H2H win over Purdue), 9-2 Oregon, 9-2 Texas? 

I don't buy it. 

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« Reply #3180 on: January 05, 2026, 11:36:59 AM »
The NFL still played the division opponents twice when the divisions were larger. 


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« Reply #3183 on: January 05, 2026, 03:55:08 PM »

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/2007876085254668718?s=20


Is anyone still doubting this? 

Your most fertile recruiting grounds are in the south.  Before pay for play, they had no real reason to venture to other regions of the country, although some did the the B1G football factories, USC, and ND.

Green is the best recruiter in the nation now.  If you have it to pass out, they'll come.

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« Reply #3184 on: January 05, 2026, 06:00:54 PM »
Yet people freak out about CFB rematch possibilities.
not I
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« Reply #3185 on: January 05, 2026, 07:41:56 PM »
Is anyone still doubting this? 

Your most fertile recruiting grounds are in the south.  Before pay for play, they had no real reason to venture to other regions of the country, although some did the the B1G football factories, USC, and ND.

Green is the best recruiter in the nation now.  If you have it to pass out, they'll come.
Well, I didn’t read the entire article, but what I’m sensing is that Feldman is implying that they were getting paid all along in the SEC. 


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« Reply #3187 on: January 05, 2026, 08:45:34 PM »
Well, I didn’t read the entire article, but what I’m sensing is that Feldman is implying that they were getting paid all along in the SEC.

Ehhh, they were getting paid everywhere. 

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« Reply #3188 on: January 05, 2026, 09:18:56 PM »
yup, just not market value
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« Reply #3189 on: January 05, 2026, 10:05:39 PM »
Yet the 6+2 model that you prescribed (3-team superconferences of 20 teams each, broken into 2 divisions, every division winner gets an automatic berth) would certainly end up with teams who are the equivalent of those 8-9 Panthers.

Yeah, those teams would probably be no worse than say 9-3 or 8-4, but in the non-parity world of CFB relative to the NFL where teams play a lot of patsies, 9-3 in CFB is basically the equivalent of being about a 0.500 team in the NFL.

In 2000, Purdue won the B1G with an 8-3, 6-2 record. They won it by virtue of a 3-way tie with Michigan and Northwestern (who they defeated H2H). They had two bad losses (PSU and MSU, who both finished with a losing record. Yes, that wasn't a full round-robin schedule in 2000 as it was 8 conference games and an 11-team conference, but the teams they missed were Iowa and Illinois who both finished with losing records. They were ranked in the top 10 for only one week all season, at #9.

Had the 2000 Boilermakers been in your system, I'm sure it would have generated some grumbling about an "unworthy" CFP team considering this was the final pre-bowl poll:



Purdue was 13th in the AP, 14th in the Coaches, and outside the top 15 in the final BCS standings. If we assume the old conference system the other 5 conference champs were Oklahoma (B12), Miami (bEast), FSU (ACC), Florida (SEC), and Washington (P10).

You're telling me that you don't think there'd be grumbling about "unworthy" 8-3 Purdue being given a CFP berth instead of making enough room for teams like 10-1 Oregon State, 10-1 VT, 9-2 Nebraska, 9-2 Notre Dame (H2H win over Purdue), 9-2 Oregon, 9-2 Texas?

I don't buy it.

a - no one gives a shit about Oregon St
b - you're comparing a situation where a 1-game worse Purdue gets in over a 9-2 ND with the example I gave of a sub-.500 team hosting a 12-5 team?  Mkay.
c - Also, ND would be in the same division as Purdue, so.....idk what to tell you

If you have a division-winner with a subpar record, they'd be the 8 seed and have to play @ the #1 team. 
Also, if you're one of those teams on the outside looking in, and you didn't win your division AND weren't one of the top 2 at-large teams, no, you don't get to bitch about anything.

Winning a 10-team division is A LOT different than going 8-9 like Carolina in a 4-team division, and you know this.
I'm afraid you're not doing a good job of really putting yourself in my proposed format. 
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« Reply #3190 on: January 05, 2026, 10:07:47 PM »
Is anyone still doubting this? 

Your most fertile recruiting grounds are in the south.  Before pay for play, they had no real reason to venture to other regions of the country, although some did the the B1G football factories, USC, and ND.

Green is the best recruiter in the nation now.  If you have it to pass out, they'll come.
It's entirely possible that the SEC was slow to really dive into the new paradigm, as they'd been dominant with the status quo.  Assuming these changes would have been relatively mild and not really shake things up could have been a mistake on their part.

But I guess that's less juicy than "they were cheating all along and are now getting their comeuppance."
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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« Reply #3191 on: January 05, 2026, 10:10:41 PM »
It’s wild to learn that sports have been done wrong the whole time.
Defend it.

Steel man the 4-team division-winners (only 6 of your 17 games being within your division) hosting a playoff game, no matter the record disparity between them and teams that didn't win their division.

“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

 

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