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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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« Reply #3052 on: December 14, 2025, 06:42:34 AM »
I love how now that NIL is a thing there is information getting out about how the big programs have been paying players all along, just like we all suspected. Coach O has been out there dishing dirt, Johnny Manziel, and several others. 

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« Reply #3053 on: December 14, 2025, 08:49:55 AM »
Well, there is a non-zero chance that Texas Tech could win the CFP.  In some ways the A&M-Tech rivalry is every bit as heated as the A&M-Texas rivalry.  Recall the 2001 classless clown game, pirate beats a soldier quote, and countless others. We were 6-10 vs Tech in Big 12 days. Now I don’t think anyone is naive to think that from 2012-2025 Tech was as good as 1990’s to 2010 Tech, or whenever Leach left. But safe to say, there is no love lost between our programs.

All that said, even if it would sting if Tech wins it all, at least it would signal that real change is happening for all the “not a blue blood” programs.
would be great if Tech was on the other side of the bracket from the Hoosiers
Tech vs Indiana for the tile would be glorious
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« Reply #3054 on: December 14, 2025, 08:53:17 AM »
Anybody besides Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, OU, Texas, Florida, and about 4-5 other programs that we’ve seen over the past 25-30 years. I would almost say Nebraska except they’ve had such a rough 20 or so years, maybe more like 10-15 that I wouldn’t lump them in that group. 

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« Reply #3055 on: December 15, 2025, 10:02:03 AM »
would be great if Tech was on the other side of the bracket from the Hoosiers
Tech vs Indiana for the tile would be glorious

Would probably be one of the worst-rated NC games by number of viewers, so the Mouse will probably be greasing some zebra wheels to try and avoid that, if possible.  

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« Reply #3056 on: December 15, 2025, 10:14:50 AM »
I think the Hoosiers will pull good ratings - hell, 60 minutes had a piece on them last night
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« Reply #3057 on: December 15, 2025, 10:18:28 AM »
Anybody besides Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, OU, Texas, Florida, and about 4-5 other programs that we’ve seen over the past 25-30 years. I would almost say Nebraska except they’ve had such a rough 20 or so years, maybe more like 10-15 that I wouldn’t lump them in that group.
it's always been about access to talent.

SEC had major advantage prior to NIL because most of the very top players come from their geographical foot print + let's face it- most of those schools did the whole McDonald's bag full of money to get recruits.

Porthole/NIL has changed that landscape entirely. Bama can't stock up 5*'s at every position and have them wait their turn- they'll just hit the porthole if they aren't starting. And all the under-recruited kids that wind up being stars can just hit the porthole now and go to bigger schools for a bigger payday.

this era is now all about who has the money to buy players in the porthole, pay to keep the star players they already have on the roster, and pay for the top tier HS recruits. that is basically all only schools in the SEC & B1G with a billionaire or two or twenty backing them.

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« Reply #3058 on: December 15, 2025, 10:45:31 AM »
would be great if Tech was on the other side of the bracket from the Hoosiers
Tech vs Indiana for the tile would be glorious
I don't thnk so :93:
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« Reply #3059 on: December 15, 2025, 10:52:16 AM »
Well, there is a non-zero chance that Texas Tech could win the CFP.  In some ways the A&M-Tech rivalry is every bit as heated as the A&M-Texas rivalry.  Recall the 2001 classless clown game, pirate beats a soldier quote, and countless others. We were 6-10 vs Tech in Big 12 days. Now I don’t think anyone is naive to think that from 2012-2025 Tech was as good as 1990’s to 2010 Tech, or whenever Leach left. But safe to say, there is no love lost between our programs.

All that said, even if it would sting if Tech wins it all, at least it would signal that real change is happening for all the “not a blue blood” programs.
I think there's a difference. I'm not exactly up on how Texas schools compare, but from what I know, A&M is FAR closer to the level of Texas than it is to the level of Texas Tech. 

I think of it in terms of Purdue rivalries. Purdue's two hated teams are Notre Dame and Indiana. The issue is... Notre Dame barely sees us as a rival. We have a long history playing them, but it's rarely competitive. In Texas, you have two good teams (UT and A&M) and one "patsy" (Tech) for lack of a better word. Which means that in the grand scheme of things, A&M and UT are battling for the same level of recruits, and Tech is picking up the scraps. Whereas in Indiana, Notre Dame is getting the prized recruits while Purdue and IU are fighting over the scraps. 

Your "hatred" of Tech is muted because you ultimately know they're not really on your level. My "hatred" of Notre Dame is muted because I ultimately know we're not on their level. 

But Purdue and IU are peers. 

Which means that I can stomach the idea of them stringing together a couple of good seasons. 8-4 to 10-2, maybe backdooring into the 12-team CFP at 10-2 only to be the sacrificial lamb. Ultimately that's transient success, that doesn't change the ultimate balance of power in the state. Just as if Notre Dame wins it all one of these years, as much as I'll hate it, doesn't change the balance of power in the state, because neither Purdue nor IU were on their level to begin with.

But an IU team that knocked off Oregon and Ohio State, to be 13-0 Big Ten Champs and ranked #1? An IU team that had its first ever Heisman winner? An IU team that maybe even has a real chance to win it all, or at least to make it to the CFP final? 

No... Those are the sort of program-changing levels of success that upset the balance of power in the state of Indiana. Their success, then, comes DIRECTLY at Purdue's expense. It may not be just a transient couple of good years that goes away as soon as their coach is poached. It's the sort of thing that gets alumni excited and opens their wallets. It's the sort of thing that gets Indiana HS kids dreaming of going to IU. It's the sort of thing that can be momentum-building and become a self-fulfilling prophecy about Indiana being closer to Notre Dame's level than Purdue's. 

It's the opposite in basketball. IU has the banners and the "blue blood" reputation. But for most of the past two decades, Purdue has been the premier basketball school in the state, and IU has been rotating through coaches and having little to show for it. Over the past few years, Purdue has elevated further, getting the Final Four curse off our backs, and making it to the NCAAT final. I can tell you that every IU basketball fan in the country is praying that Purdue doesn't capitalize and win it all, because it seems that Purdue has already flipped the balance of power in basketball, and Purdue hanging a banner, with a solid culture in place, with a seasoned HC who is only 55 and has no aspirations of ever leaving West Lafayette... That's the sort of thing that elevates Purdue and it happens at the direct expense of IU.  

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« Reply #3060 on: December 15, 2025, 10:53:28 AM »
 And all the under-recruited kids that wind up being stars can just hit the porthole now and go to bigger schools for a bigger payday.this era is now all about who has the money to buy players in the porthole, pay to keep the star players they already have on the roster, and pay for the top tier HS recruits. that is basically all only schools in the SEC & B1G with a billionaire or two or twenty backing them.
Yup Booger hit the portal pretty good with lineman,I hate - HATE that some program with good coaches bring a kid up to snuff only to have all that go out the window  because some delinquent with deep pockets can pilfer them. Scrap the Caddy,Clyde
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« Reply #3061 on: December 15, 2025, 10:55:24 AM »
why some coaches don't want good players in bowl games or spring games
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« Reply #3062 on: December 15, 2025, 12:22:31 PM »
it's always been about access to talent.

SEC had major advantage prior to NIL because most of the very top players come from their geographical foot print + let's face it- most of those schools did the whole McDonald's bag full of money to get recruits.

Porthole/NIL has changed that landscape entirely. Bama can't stock up 5*'s at every position and have them wait their turn- they'll just hit the porthole if they aren't starting. And all the under-recruited kids that wind up being stars can just hit the porthole now and go to bigger schools for a bigger payday.

this era is now all about who has the money to buy players in the porthole, pay to keep the star players they already have on the roster, and pay for the top tier HS recruits. that is basically all only schools in the SEC & B1G with a billionaire or two or twenty backing them.


Why do you keep spelling it "porthole?"

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« Reply #3063 on: December 15, 2025, 12:39:31 PM »
he's a sea man
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« Reply #3064 on: December 15, 2025, 12:47:07 PM »
I think there's a difference. I'm not exactly up on how Texas schools compare, but from what I know, A&M is FAR closer to the level of Texas than it is to the level of Texas Tech.

I think of it in terms of Purdue rivalries. Purdue's two hated teams are Notre Dame and Indiana. The issue is... Notre Dame barely sees us as a rival. We have a long history playing them, but it's rarely competitive. In Texas, you have two good teams (UT and A&M) and one "patsy" (Tech) for lack of a better word. Which means that in the grand scheme of things, A&M and UT are battling for the same level of recruits, and Tech is picking up the scraps. Whereas in Indiana, Notre Dame is getting the prized recruits while Purdue and IU are fighting over the scraps.

All it takes right now is for the school's bag man to be a billionaire and throw $20-30 M a year for newcomers/transfers.  Tech has such an individual, and it has paid off in spades.

College football is going to turn into the Yankees and Dodgers having the best players, and the underdogs trying to overcome.  Maybe it always has been, as was alluded to, but it ain't no secret now.

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« Reply #3065 on: December 15, 2025, 12:52:50 PM »
All it takes right now is for the school's bag man to be a billionaire and throw $20-30 M a year for newcomers/transfers.  Tech has such an individual, and it has paid off in spades.

College football is going to turn into the Yankees and Dodgers having the best players, and the underdogs trying to overcome.  Maybe it always has been, as was alluded to, but it ain't no secret now.
In truth, it always has been. Schools like mine, or IU, never actually had a chance. 

What we DID have was the opportunity, with good coaching, to develop players. A coach with a good eye for overlooked talent could bring in his guys, develop them, to the point where by the time they were juniors and seniors, they'd "punch above their weight class". They could never truly compete with the big boys, but they could dominate the G5, beat their peers, and occasionally knock off a big boy or two. 

NIL and the no-wait transfer portal killed that. You can't keep good players any more, even if you manage to find them in the first place. Now, the underdogs can't do diddly if they don't have a billionaire backer.

 

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