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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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« Reply #2912 on: October 02, 2025, 02:05:41 PM »
you give these short-sighted morons who run the schools and the conference far too much credit.
Possibly. But let's think of it this way...

Let's say these "short-sighted morons" built in a GoR extension until 2046 with a $1B exit penalty. Basically what the ACC did but multiplied. 

And they got themselves an immediate $110M cash influx. 

Sounds like protecting their futures while lining their pockets at the same time. 

For all the mess that conference realignment has caused, you know who hasn't lost anyone? The ACC. You know why? Because it's too goddamned expensive to leave. If the ACC had NOT done that, do you think they would still have FSU/Clemson/etc in the conference? If the ACC had imploded and lost their top teams, do you not think Notre Dame would suddenly be beating down the doors to join the B1G as they lost access to some of their key strength of schedule opponents? 

If the entire goal is to lock up the big boys, this could be an entity that can do that. 

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« Reply #2913 on: October 02, 2025, 02:15:22 PM »
Possibly. But let's think of it this way...

Let's say these "short-sighted morons" built in a GoR extension until 2046 with a $1B exit penalty. Basically what the ACC did but multiplied.

And they got themselves an immediate $110M cash influx.

Sounds like protecting their futures while lining their pockets at the same time.

For all the mess that conference realignment has caused, you know who hasn't lost anyone? The ACC. You know why? Because it's too goddamned expensive to leave. If the ACC had NOT done that, do you think they would still have FSU/Clemson/etc in the conference? If the ACC had imploded and lost their top teams, do you not think Notre Dame would suddenly be beating down the doors to join the B1G as they lost access to some of their key strength of schedule opponents?

If the entire goal is to lock up the big boys, this could be an entity that can do that.
Uhhh...didn't the ACC lose teams?  Specifically Maryland and a few others to the Big 10?  

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« Reply #2914 on: October 02, 2025, 02:31:22 PM »
Possibly. But let's think of it this way...

Let's say these "short-sighted morons" built in a GoR extension until 2046 with a $1B exit penalty. Basically what the ACC did but multiplied.

And they got themselves an immediate $110M cash influx.

Sounds like protecting their futures while lining their pockets at the same time.

For all the mess that conference realignment has caused, you know who hasn't lost anyone? The ACC. You know why? Because it's too goddamned expensive to leave. If the ACC had NOT done that, do you think they would still have FSU/Clemson/etc in the conference? If the ACC had imploded and lost their top teams, do you not think Notre Dame would suddenly be beating down the doors to join the B1G as they lost access to some of their key strength of schedule opponents?

If the entire goal is to lock up the big boys, this could be an entity that can do that.
few thoughts…

a) they don’t need to turn to PE to lock down the big boys into a long term deal with serious exit penalties.

b) from what I understand they need unanimous approval to do this deal with PE- which they will never get.

c) PE would much rather bankroll a new super league with all helmets and generate higher tv revenues by getting the big dawgs to ditch the conferences. don’t get it twisted for a second. they are not the good guys saving the poor little guys like Purdue or Illinois in this scenario.

this is nothing more than a disgusting cash grab attempt by a bunch of cheap desperate whore ADs whose schools are in serious debt and all they are doing is whoring themselves out for a quick buck. that’s it. that’s the story.

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« Reply #2915 on: October 02, 2025, 02:35:21 PM »
Uhhh...didn't the ACC lose teams?  Specifically Maryland and a few others to the Big 10? 
I think that was before they negotiated their GoR to create exit penalties. The former caused the latter. 


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« Reply #2916 on: October 02, 2025, 02:45:39 PM »
This is the best way to put this @CatsbyAZ and I shared it elsewhere (247UW). Thanks.

Another pattern of Private Equity takeovers that is starting to become more noticed is the replacement of existing CEOs with total outsiders who have little experience in the industry they are suddenly assigned to helm. For example, the new CEO of a Healthcare provider who's never worked a day in healthcare.

For the Private Equity heads, casting an outsider as CEO (most often a man from India) serves several functions:

1) They can be underpaid...
2) and when enough employees eventually turn on company leadership, they can be scapegoated...
3) and easily disposed of.
4) Most importantly, because an outsider CEO does not have a personal history with the company they are leading, they are willing to carry out unseemly marching orders from PE heads that would otherwise ostracize and oust previous CEOs pre-Private Equity.

If the Big Ten undergoes a true PE takeover, the PE overlords will at some point have leverage to oust Tony Petitti. This is part of the strategy. If the pattern holds, expect him to be replaced by somebody who's never watched college or American sports, much less worked in the industry. At the behest of PE overlords, they will carry out orders that will alienate University Presidents and Athletic Directors.

It will be so bad that people in Ann Arbor will wish Dave Brandon could be Conference Commissioner.

College Football fans are already alienated by too many changes at once: NIL, Conference realignment, Transfer Portal, bloated buyouts for coaches, loss of historical rivalries, etc.

A Private Equity takeover will alienate Athletic Departments and Universities.

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« Reply #2917 on: October 02, 2025, 02:51:06 PM »
Uhhh...didn't the ACC lose teams?  Specifically Maryland and a few others to the Big 10? 
Rutgers was in the Big East,Maryland was in the ACC
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« Reply #2918 on: October 02, 2025, 03:10:33 PM »
Rutgers was in the Big East,Maryland was in the ACC
I really couldn't even tell you all ten, er, 11, I mean 12....or 13..or 14....uh maybe 16?  I can't remember.  Anyways I couldn't even tell you how many teams are in the BIG 10 or who they are.  
Same for the Big 12...or is it 14?  

Now the PAC 12....that's pretty easy.  2.  

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« Reply #2919 on: October 02, 2025, 04:16:54 PM »

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« Reply #2920 on: October 02, 2025, 04:30:47 PM »
Another pattern of Private Equity takeovers that is starting to become more noticed is the replacement of existing CEOs with total outsiders who have little experience in the industry they are suddenly assigned to helm. For example, the new CEO of a Healthcare provider who's never worked a day in healthcare.

For the Private Equity heads, casting an outsider as CEO (most often a man from India) serves several functions:

1) They can be underpaid...
2) and when enough employees eventually turn on company leadership, they can be scapegoated...
3) and easily disposed of.
4) Most importantly, because an outsider CEO does not have a personal history with the company they are leading, they are willing to carry out unseemly marching orders from PE heads that would otherwise ostracize and oust previous CEOs pre-Private Equity.

If the Big Ten undergoes a true PE takeover, the PE overlords will at some point have leverage to oust Tony Petitti. This is part of the strategy. If the pattern holds, expect him to be replaced by somebody who's never watched college or American sports, much less worked in the industry. At the behest of PE overlords, they will carry out orders that will alienate University Presidents and Athletic Directors.

It will be so bad that people in Ann Arbor will wish Dave Brandon could be Conference Commissioner.

College Football fans are already alienated by too many changes at once: NIL, Conference realignment, Transfer Portal, bloated buyouts for coaches, loss of historical rivalries, etc.

A Private Equity takeover will alienate Athletic Departments and Universities.
exactly this. that is the other thing not getting talked about enough in this ordeal...PE isn't just going to make a one time $2 billion investment and say gee thanks for letting us invest in your media rights guys. they do not operate like that. ever. they will continue to invest in order to gain more equity/leverage/control, and in turn just ruin the entire sport that much faster. i know a lot of people who have made deals with the devil and gotten involved with PE. every single one regrets it and is kicking themselves in the head over it. you only willingly get involved with PE if you want to sell out and get a quick cash grab golden parachute cash out and don't give a single fuck about what comes next for your business/company. that's basically it- that's the only reason to ever get involved with those scumbags.

Petiti should be immediately fired for even entertaining this nonsense.

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« Reply #2921 on: October 02, 2025, 08:39:46 PM »
Agree with the above evaluations.

The schools will likely increase their own share of revenue and profit by going with PE.

The fans and alumni will almost certainly suffer for it. 

How much have your school administrations cared about the fans lately?
Gee.  Sounds like tariffs to me.

And can someone explain to me how these universities are in so much debt?  They charge infinite money to attend these places now.  Where does it all go?!?
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« Reply #2922 on: October 02, 2025, 09:03:32 PM »
Gee.  Sounds like tariffs to me.
Why do you do this?

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« Reply #2923 on: October 02, 2025, 10:35:34 PM »
he doesn't know any better
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« Reply #2924 on: October 03, 2025, 02:40:36 PM »
exactly this. that is the other thing not getting talked about enough in this ordeal...PE isn't just going to make a one time $2 billion investment and say gee thanks for letting us invest in your media rights guys. they do not operate like that. ever. they will continue to invest in order to gain more equity/leverage/control, and in turn just ruin the entire sport that much faster.

This is true. As I mentioned earlier, Private Equity always projects well on paper but the promised increase on ROI haven’t followed through for Corporate America – see below quote:

I'm interested to see what they think they can do, to increase the value there.  They don't invest unless they think they can make significant returns.  They'll be looking for 20-30% ROI, although historically the rates end up being closer to 10 or 11%.

Yes. Despite Private Equity’s intensive cuts to overhead (i.e. layoffs) and price increases, PE proposals don’t take into account that increased consumer costs soon price-out the lower- and middle-classes. In other words, PE drives off a large segment of its consumers/audience.

There’s a larger unseen internal Private Equity strategy that nips into expected ROIs: The ESG Score. ESG stands for Environmental Social and Governance. It’s essentially a Social Credit score for publicly traded corporations that the Fortune 500 has heavily subscribed to for the last ten or more years, and are only recently realizing that the expected long-term investment benefit likely will never be realized. Under CEO Bob Iger, Disney, for example, is the most devout disciple of nurturing their ESG score. In the process their stock value has stagnated for a decade, their parks aren’t drawing the crowds of the past, and audiences have become indifferent about their largest cinema brands – Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar – and Disney's costly ESG pursuit hasn't helped.

Private Equity takeovers almost always insist on raising the ESG score, yet establishing the internal practices and promotions that raise a corporation’s ESG rating is incredibly expensive and intensive, so much so it shows up as a contributing loss against an overall ROI. Why is it expensive? Maintaining an ESG scores requires hefty DEI departments and financial contributions to local and national organizations that promote causes such as LGBTQ+ and Climate Change awareness. This can include collectively paying for community Pride Parades or hosting fundraisers for the Sierra Club.

For a company like Disney (or Netflix) this additionally means peppering your movies and Disney+ shows with LGBTQ+ characters and expanding your screenwriting teams to include voices from marginalized communities.

Now, I say all this not to criticize the factors behind ESG scoring (that would be for the political board), but to point out how costly pursuing a preferable ESG rating can be. PE probably wouldn’t apply ESG initiatives as intensively to the Big Ten, however there would almost certainly be a large, centralized DEI department that would promote practices like raising the Pride Flag at stadiums during the month of June or, more expensively, requiring football programs to invest in and participate in organizations that increase ESG ratings. And look at NFL's DEI initiatives including the Black National Anthem before kickoff and painting slogans like “End Racism” in the endzones.

So, the big question is why did Corporate America and especially Private Equity collectively fall in line with ESG scoring in the first place? The longer-term promise behind ESG is that a high ESG score would make your company more investable, sellable, and mergeable, and thus drive an increase to its stock outlook for the long term. This is why shareholder boards insisted on a rising ESG score. Conversely, because a low ESG score indicated the opposite, there was a worry among Fortune 500 companies over being left behind, which drove an ESG arms race that only recently select companies are opting out of.




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« Reply #2925 on: October 03, 2025, 05:26:18 PM »
This is true. As I mentioned earlier, Private Equity always projects well on paper but the promised increase on ROI haven’t followed through for Corporate America – see below quote:

Yes. Despite Private Equity’s intensive cuts to overhead (i.e. layoffs) and price increases, PE proposals don’t take into account that increased consumer costs soon price-out the lower- and middle-classes. In other words, PE drives off a large segment of its consumers/audience.

There’s a larger unseen internal Private Equity strategy that nips into expected ROIs: The ESG Score. ESG stands for Environmental Social and Governance. It’s essentially a Social Credit score for publicly traded corporations that the Fortune 500 has heavily subscribed to for the last ten or more years, and are only recently realizing that the expected long-term investment benefit likely will never be realized. Under CEO Bob Iger, Disney, for example, is the most devout disciple of nurturing their ESG score. In the process their stock value has stagnated for a decade, their parks aren’t drawing the crowds of the past, and audiences have become indifferent about their largest cinema brands – Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar – and Disney's costly ESG pursuit hasn't helped.

Private Equity takeovers almost always insist on raising the ESG score, yet establishing the internal practices and promotions that raise a corporation’s ESG rating is incredibly expensive and intensive, so much so it shows up as a contributing loss against an overall ROI. Why is it expensive? Maintaining an ESG scores requires hefty DEI departments and financial contributions to local and national organizations that promote causes such as LGBTQ+ and Climate Change awareness. This can include collectively paying for community Pride Parades or hosting fundraisers for the Sierra Club.

For a company like Disney (or Netflix) this additionally means peppering your movies and Disney+ shows with LGBTQ+ characters and expanding your screenwriting teams to include voices from marginalized communities.

Now, I say all this not to criticize the factors behind ESG scoring (that would be for the political board), but to point out how costly pursuing a preferable ESG rating can be. PE probably wouldn’t apply ESG initiatives as intensively to the Big Ten, however there would almost certainly be a large, centralized DEI department that would promote practices like raising the Pride Flag at stadiums during the month of June or, more expensively, requiring football programs to invest in and participate in organizations that increase ESG ratings. And look at NFL's DEI initiatives including the Black National Anthem before kickoff and painting slogans like “End Racism” in the endzones.

So, the big question is why did Corporate America and especially Private Equity collectively fall in line with ESG scoring in the first place? The longer-term promise behind ESG is that a high ESG score would make your company more investable, sellable, and mergeable, and thus drive an increase to its stock outlook for the long term. This is why shareholder boards insisted on a rising ESG score. Conversely, because a low ESG score indicated the opposite, there was a worry among Fortune 500 companies over being left behind, which drove an ESG arms race that only recently select companies are opting out of.





Good post. ESG is now viewed as a joke, and avoided by investment professionals. 

There is a lot of accurate descriptions of the shortcomings of PE in this thread.  And while I am generally not a fan, and don’t support it for the Big 10, much of what has been said here wouldn’t be applicable to the BIG. 
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