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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #2478 on: July 07, 2025, 10:13:46 AM »
are there even CFB fantasy leagues? I do know that the fantasy football teams along with the online/app gambling has really made the NFL explode in popularity. NFL is more popular than it has ever been.
I think CFB fantasy stuff exists, but it's not strongly popular. 

One of the biggest problems is that with 130 FBS teams and a complete lack of parity, there are just too many players and too many lopsided matchups. One of the things that make NFL fantasy interesting is the relative scarcity--if you're playing in a 12 team league, the number of "superstars" dries up quickly so you really have to think about your draft to make sure you get someone good. With college fantasy, and quarterbacks specifically, you have too many teams like the old school June Jones Hawaii teams, or the Mike Leach "air raid" teams, where these teams aren't actually all that good and the QBs mostly pedestrian, but they put up massive stats. 

NFL fantasy football is a pretty solid product, and much of what makes it so completely breaks when you try to translate that to CFB. 


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« Reply #2479 on: July 07, 2025, 10:45:52 AM »
Yeah, that's the biggest issue.  I think as more offenses open up, it has become a little bit better, or you can limit it to Power 4 teams.  But as pointed out, in the NFL the best players usually translate to the best stats.

In college football, guys would draft and stash the Texas Tech or Hawaii backup QBs, simply because they were one injury away from being the MVP

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« Reply #2480 on: July 07, 2025, 10:47:29 AM »
maybe we should start a fantasy league limited to only B1G & SEC players. would probably be a much better product and make those two conference even more popular. 

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« Reply #2481 on: July 07, 2025, 10:57:14 AM »
I think CFB fantasy stuff exists, but it's not strongly popular.

One of the biggest problems is that with 130 FBS teams and a complete lack of parity, there are just too many players and too many lopsided matchups. One of the things that make NFL fantasy interesting is the relative scarcity--if you're playing in a 12 team league, the number of "superstars" dries up quickly so you really have to think about your draft to make sure you get someone good. With college fantasy, and quarterbacks specifically, you have too many teams like the old school June Jones Hawaii teams, or the Mike Leach "air raid" teams, where these teams aren't actually all that good and the QBs mostly pedestrian, but they put up massive stats.

NFL fantasy football is a pretty solid product, and much of what makes it so completely breaks when you try to translate that to CFB.
I think I knew someone who played it, but it seems like too much of a hassle. Plus you end up having to know productive players for random teams, it ends up losing any hope of casuals.

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« Reply #2482 on: July 07, 2025, 06:33:06 PM »
P4 teams only would work......or honestly, I'd just do B1G + SEC + ND/FSU/Clemson/Miami - 38 teams

And like with fantasy baseball having an innings cap, you could have a pass attempts cap at 500 or 600 or something for a season.  So you only get points up to that ceiling.

It may take a step or two more than a log in and play NFL fantasy game, but it's completely doable.
The toughest part now is all the player movement.  But that's not a dealbreaker.  

And I don't think college football fandom is that far behind the NFL in terms of number of fans, it's just that so many people like both.  And honestly, thanks to religion, people tend to do less errands on Sundays, so that means you're doing them on Saturday....during college football.  So many wind up having more exposure and growing their allegiance more to NFL than college.

And if I could get any damn time freed up from producing orders of my WN game, I have so many versions I could create - so far, I only have normal, annual teams and all-time teams.  I could do all-conference teams for each season, all-decade teams, all-decade conference teams, ect.  All-American teams for each season....the list goes on and on.  

The variety of college used to be magnificent.  But it has already become so homogenous lately.  The consolidation of conferences, the near uniformity of offenses (spread option), etc sucks.  It's akin to the late 70s where everyone was running the wishbone, even hold-outs like Bear Bryant wound up running it.  But thanks to BYU then Miami, the passing game started to spread and some diversity happened into the 90s.  Still had option programs in the 90s, too.  But then thanks to Meyer and RichRod, the shotgun spread option swept the country and I'm sitting here waiting for the next thing to get us out of this monotony.

Rant over, I guess.
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« Reply #2483 on: July 07, 2025, 08:13:53 PM »
Well there we go, have fro write up the rules so that UTee can whip up the software. 

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« Reply #2484 on: July 07, 2025, 08:43:16 PM »
Fantasy Note:  The leading receiver (yardage-wise) in the SEC had only 1 TD.  
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« Reply #2485 on: July 07, 2025, 08:54:16 PM »
https://www.fantasypoints.com/cfb/adp

Found this for the upcoming season.  I like it because you can toggle out the G5 programs.
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« Reply #2486 on: July 10, 2025, 07:21:15 PM »
College sports entered an entirely new, and entirely unprecedented, era on July 1 when the House v. NCAA settlement finally took effect. For the first time ever, schools can directly pay players for performance via revenue sharing contracts.

To coincide with the change, the College Sports Commission (CSC) was created to handle regulation and enforcement of player compensation issues. Among the CSC's responsibilities, in cooperation with Deloitte, is the policing of name, image and likeness deals.

The CSC and Deloitte launched an NIL Go portal to ensure "fair market value" and valid business purpose based on an actual endorsement. While the technicalities and qualifications of a valid NIL deal were nebulous for the first week of the revenue sharing era, the CSC released information Thursday clarifying exactly what qualifies as a legitimate NIL deal.

The NIL Go portal allows student-athletes a way to report third-party NIL deals to be evaluated for rules compliance. An athlete can do this before accepting a deal to ensure that their eligibility will not be impacted.

NIL deals will be judged on a set of three criteria:

Payor Association: "The relationship between the payor and the student-athlete's school"
Valid Business Purpose: "Whether the payor is seeking the use of the student-athlete's NIL for a valid business purpose, meaning to sell a good or service to the public for profit"
Range of Compensation: "Whether the compensation paid to the student-athlete is commensurate with compensation paid to similarly situated individuals"
Payor Association
The "Payor Association" category is especially important given that, under previous NIL guidance, boosters could facilitate deals with prospective athletes. Under the new NIL Go guidelines, boosters would be classified as an "associated entity."

The CSC also classifies "associated entities" as:

Those that are known or "should have been known" to an athletic department that exist with the express purpose of either promoting an institutions athletics programs or creating NIL opportunities for an institution's student-athletes -- i.e., an NIL collective.
An entity that has been directed by an athletics department to assist in recruitment or retention of athletes.
An entity controlled by someone or something other than a publicly traded corporation.
Valid Business Purpose
The Valid Business Purpose qualification is rather self-explanatory. Instead of just handing an athlete a contract under the mask of an NIL deal, any deal that an athlete enters into must demonstrate "Evidence of using the student-athlete's NIL to promote a good or service being offered to the public for profit."

Specifically, NCAA Rule 22.1.3 -- the valid business purpose requirement -- prohibits NIL collectives from paying athletes to appear on behalf of the collective at an event, even if said event is open to the public. The purpose of the event would be to raise money for the collective, which does not provide a good or service to the general public for profit -- even those collectives that sell merchandise.


Now were a restaurant or an apparel company to strike a similar bargain, it would satisfy the valid business purpose requirement, since the aforementioned industries do provide a service to the public in exchange for money. Collectives can still act as quasi-marketing agencies that match athletes with businesses.

Range of Compensation
The CSC will also ensure that an athlete's NIL compensation is "commensurate with compensation paid to similarly situated individuals with comparable NIL value." Essentially, is the deal a fair deal from a numbers perspective?

Several factors will be taken into consideration when calculating an athlete's Range of Compensation (RoC), including "the deal's performance obligations, the student-athlete's athletic performance and social media reach, the local market and the market reach of his or her institution and program." So, an athlete like Texas quarterback Arch Manning will have a higher RoC than, say, a freshman punter and, therefore, he'll have an easier time pitching deals with a considerably higher monetary value.


Deal Review
Once an athlete submits a third-party NIL deal to the NIL Go portal, the CSC will analyze the information provided. There are three outcomes that can be reached:

Cleared: The deal can proceed.
Not Cleared: The deal does not meet necessary requirements, but there are other options.
Flagged for Additional Review: If there are legitimate concerns about any of the above categories, the athlete will be notified and and investigation will be launched to review the terms.
An athlete does have some recourse if the deal is simply "Not Cleared." They can revise the deal to ensure that it meets all three of the requirements, they can cancel the deal and return any money they may have already received, or they can appeal the decision to a neutral arbitrator.

It should be noted that athletes risk punishment, including a potential loss of playing eligibility, only if they go through with a deal that was "Not Cleared" without addressing any of the concerns identified by the CSC.
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« Reply #2487 on: July 10, 2025, 07:29:50 PM »
CSC to be shot down in the courts in 3... 2... 

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