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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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ELA

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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1470 on: May 13, 2024, 04:58:53 PM »
We were talking at the bus stop today, and both of our neighbors who were Pitt season ticket holders learned today that they had each chosen not to renew their season tickets.  They have both owned for 15+ years, and one played for Pitt, and then was a GA there.  These were 15+ year PITT season ticket holders.  One upped his donation when he was emailed about retaining Jordan Addison, and they still lost him.  It's hilarious that the only thing keeping college sports afloat is the giant fan bases of a handful of schools, who mostly didn't attend the school.  They are banking on a bunch of people buying into something that is equivalent to being a die hard Toledo Mud Hens fan or a die hard IMG fan, for no actual reason.  Just rooting for random success of minor league teams or schools you didn't attend.  Because the actual alums of 95% of D1 schools are out
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« Reply #1471 on: May 13, 2024, 08:44:19 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on May 11, 2024, 02:11:27 PM
Realignment moves announced on May 10.

Missouri St is moving up to G5 CUSA from FCS MVFC and non-football MVC.

Grand Canyon U.  And Seatle U.  Moving from WAC to WCC.

This leaves the non-football MVC with 11 teams and FCS MVFC with 10 teams.

The WAC seems to be falling apart (Again).  Seatle moving to the WCC suggests that Gonzaga,  Ore St,  Wash St may not be staying in the WCC much longer.  Maybe a move to the MWC or PAC/MWC merger is coming




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« Reply #1472 on: May 14, 2024, 10:47:13 AM »
ESPN College GameDay chooses location for Week 1 of 2024 season (247sports.com)

A&M-ND. OK.  I once would semi-watch GD, perhaps thinking their "picks" might be magically better than my own, or those here.  They weren't of course.  I've learned that different kinds of picks by humans are often flawed, and perhaps correct only by luck in many instances.

Stock picks
Wine picks
Beer picks
Picks on best city for whatever 
Athletic picks on whatevers

They are good for clicks, and not much else.  The stock pick item, to me, is self correcting anyway, if enough investors followed whatever guru was extant.
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« Reply #1473 on: May 14, 2024, 11:12:40 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 14, 2024, 10:47:13 AM
I've learned that different kinds of picks by humans are often flawed, and perhaps correct only by luck in many instances.

Stock picks
Wine picks
Beer picks
Picks on best city for whatever
Athletic picks on whatevers
Well, wine/beer/"best city" are all matters of taste. Even "best city" which may be based on objective metrics, the choice of which metrics are used and how they're weighted is subjective. 

Stock picks or athletic pics are a right/wrong question. If you say a stock is going to go up and it goes down, you picked wrong. If you say ND is going cover vs A&M and A&M beats the spread, you picked wrong.

IMHO there are two very different classes of "picks". 
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« Reply #1474 on: May 14, 2024, 11:22:57 AM »
A lot of stock "gurus" will further claim X is about to go up a LOT, rather than just up, or that the market is headed for a real break out, or break down.

By X, I don't mean US Steel.

Anyway, they are all examples of "experts" telling us what to think and believe.

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« Reply #1475 on: May 14, 2024, 02:01:39 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 14, 2024, 11:22:57 AM
A lot of stock "gurus" will further claim X is about to go up a LOT, rather than just up, or that the market is headed for a real break out, or break down.

By X, I don't mean US Steel.

Anyway, they are all examples of "experts" telling us what to think and believe.
Fair enough. I can imagine if you're extending on up/down to the analysts who not only issue buy/sell/hold ratings but also give price targets, I get you.

I've noticed that when a stock has been increasing, all the analysts predict it's going to keep increasing, and when it's decreasing, they predict it's going to keep decreasing. I don't find them to nearly ever pick a top or bottom. 
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« Reply #1476 on: May 14, 2024, 03:11:03 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 13, 2024, 08:44:19 PM
I find it mildly comical looking at this table that Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, and Utah are all together or about to be together in the expanding B12.  They were all conference mates from 1962-1978 in the WAC.  By my reading of this chart:
  • 1962-1978 All four were in the WAC.  
  • 1979-1999 BYU and Utah in the WAC, Arizona and ASU in the P10.  
  • 2000-2012  BYU and Utah in the MWC, Arizona and ASU in the P10.  
  • 2012-2022  Arizona, ASU, and Utah in the P12, BYU in the WCC.  
  • 2023 Arizona, ASU, and Utah in the P12, BYU in the B12
  • 2024-?  All four in the B12
Together again!

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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1477 on: May 14, 2024, 04:28:16 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on May 14, 2024, 02:01:39 PM
I've noticed that when a stock has been increasing, all the analysts predict it's going to keep increasing, and when it's decreasing, they predict it's going to keep decreasing. I don't find them to nearly ever pick a top or bottom.
When I'm in the gym alone (which is usual), I turn on CNBC.  They have their "experts" who say this and that about whatever.  At times, one will opine that "X" has run up too much too fast and is ready for a downturn, or "Y" is beaten down too much and is a good turnaround candidate.  

I'm convinced these guys are no better than chance, really.  Maybe there have been a handful who could beat the market over time, but they are very very rare, in public anyway.  I can recall when John Templeton was The Guru of the time, now it seems to be the aging Oracle of Omaha (who isn't really a stock picker).

It's not as if one can watch CNBC all day and get great advice and beat the market.
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« Reply #1478 on: May 14, 2024, 08:05:51 PM »
The good thing in an ongoing, only-looking-forward type of effort, is that at some point, it simply becomes entertainment. 

Whatever-channel stock shows when they get it wrong:  Well, everyone gets it wrong from time to time.
Whatever-channel stock shows when they get it right:  That's right, that's why you watch, that's why I do this, let's make some more money!

Same with preseason mags.
Same with college gameday picks.
Same with all of it.  If you never go back to check for consistent evidence of accuracy and then utilize it going forward, you're just a fanboy of person/entity X and want to be entertained.

One of you guys said you picked up Lindy's every year for 30 years.  I would always get The Sporting News preseason mag.  Why?  Because it usually had the most content in color.  Didn't give a shit if they were any better or worse at their rankings.  
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« Reply #1479 on: May 14, 2024, 08:55:50 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on May 14, 2024, 03:11:03 PM
I find it mildly comical looking at this table that Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, and Utah are all together or about to be together in the expanding B12.  They were all conference mates from 1962-1978 in the WAC.  By my reading of this chart:
  • 1962-1978 All four were in the WAC. 
  • 1979-1999 BYU and Utah in the WAC, Arizona and ASU in the P10. 
  • 2000-2012  BYU and Utah in the MWC, Arizona and ASU in the P10. 
  • 2012-2022  Arizona, ASU, and Utah in the P12, BYU in the WCC. 
  • 2023 Arizona, ASU, and Utah in the P12, BYU in the B12
  • 2024-?  All four in the B12
Together again!



Yes, having those four plus Colorado all under one roof was a big win for CFB in the MTZ. 

All that's missing now is Boise. 
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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1480 on: May 15, 2024, 10:35:46 AM »


That's a pretty decent slate.
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« Reply #1481 on: May 15, 2024, 11:05:19 AM »
So I see we are still treating every Deion game as a marquee event?

I do like seeing 2 of the 4 truly marquee games being played on campus
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« Reply #1482 on: May 15, 2024, 11:26:40 AM »
I'm gonna hate rooting for Coach Prime in that one
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« Reply #1483 on: May 15, 2024, 11:29:28 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 15, 2024, 11:26:40 AM
I'm gonna hate rooting for Coach Prime in that one
Something against NDAKST or just want the Buffs not to lose before they come to Lincoln?
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