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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1092 on: March 09, 2024, 11:04:26 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on March 09, 2024, 08:05:04 AM
Now Title IX is ironically being used to wreck women's sports by allowing the Fros of the world to compete as women by simply pretending to be one.
You really suck at this.  
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1093 on: March 09, 2024, 11:06:28 AM »
College football could be perfectly fine.  Throwing out the NCAA and letting the inmates B1G and SEC run things, we could easily go back to regionalized conferences yielding champs a spot in a playoff and all the dollars.

No one to stop them, is what I'm saying.
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1094 on: March 09, 2024, 12:18:49 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on March 08, 2024, 11:37:33 AM
-The big question does CFB become it's own entity, or does CFB monetize it's rights differently and use the money to fix the system? Wasserman sees that if CFB keeps all the money, college sports turn into Ivy League non-scholarship clubs, and no one wants that. Amateur sports is in a very tenuous place right now.
fck Wasserman and what "no one" wants.

This is America. We're not fcking commies over here. If CFB generates all the money (they do) then the players who generate that money should get all the benefits of it and it alone. Fck what everybody else wants and their "feelings". 
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1095 on: March 09, 2024, 06:04:46 PM »
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1096 on: March 10, 2024, 12:15:49 PM »
Damn, 50-1 their last 51 games.  Not bad.  No wonder the SEC doesn't want to play them.
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1097 on: March 10, 2024, 06:02:39 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 09, 2024, 12:18:49 PM
fck Wasserman and what "no one" wants.

This is America. We're not fcking commies over here. If CFB generates all the money (they do) then the players who generate that money should get all the benefits of it and it alone. Fck what everybody else wants and their "feelings".

Well so far, clearly the universities themselves have proven that THEY don't want the non-revenue sports to become non-scholarship wastelands.  And since it's the universities that receive the vast bulk of the football TV money, and distribute it within their programs as they see fit, I don't see any reason to believe they're going to suddenly change their entire belief structure.

You can certainly have the opinion that the football players alone should receive all that money, but it's obvious the power brokers at the universities don't agree with that sentiment.  
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1098 on: March 11, 2024, 12:30:29 AM »
My hope is that instead of different groups making moves to seek out more dollars, it ends in one group (or a pair working together) to have all the money, at which point they can then make moves for the health of the sport.

Naive?
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1099 on: March 11, 2024, 09:45:25 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 10, 2024, 06:02:39 PM
You can certainly have the opinion that the football players alone should receive all that money, but it's obvious the power brokers at the universities don't agree with that sentiment. 
Judges have a strong influence over these decisions 
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1100 on: March 11, 2024, 11:49:39 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 11, 2024, 09:45:25 AM
Judges have a strong influence over these decisions

Are there any lawsuits currently where players are suing universities to be paid for their services?  Judges can't legislate so there will have to be court cases.
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1101 on: March 11, 2024, 01:12:44 PM »
Judges decided women get equal number of scholarships

Judges decided NIL, so far
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1102 on: March 11, 2024, 01:24:10 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 11, 2024, 01:12:44 PM
Judges decided women get equal number of scholarships

Judges decided NIL, so far
None of that has anything to do with players being paid directly as employees by the university.
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1103 on: March 11, 2024, 01:39:56 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 11, 2024, 01:12:44 PM
Judges decided women get equal number of scholarships

Judges decided NIL, so far
don't forget...

judges decided how college football was shown on television. 

and....

judges are about to decide on transfer eligibility rules...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-joins-lawsuit-challenging-national-collegiate-athletics-associations-ncaa
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1104 on: March 11, 2024, 01:40:32 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 11, 2024, 01:24:10 PM
None of that has anything to do with players being paid directly as employees by the university.
they haven't yet, probably will eventually, as they seem to decide everything else 
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Re: The Death of College Football
« Reply #1105 on: March 11, 2024, 01:45:18 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on March 11, 2024, 01:40:32 PM
they haven't yet, probably will eventually, as they seem to decide everything else

The lawsuits must appear first.  Not sure how they're going to be worded in a way that makes them appear meritorious.

If players DO attempt to make the case that they're employees, then it's going to be pretty sticky for a court to attempt to mandate how much of the profits the employer is forced to share with the employees.  Especially since the volleyball players and the soccer players would also have to be considered employees as well under those circumstances.

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