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Topic: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1400 on: April 29, 2024, 07:35:43 PM »
Quote from: ELA on April 29, 2024, 01:11:09 PM
Correct, in projecting out you want some predictability.  Michigan, OSU, Nebraska, Alabama, Texas, etc... have big fan bases because they have a history of winning, and have a larger non-alumni fan base than less successful programs.  When teams are good, they draw.  Oregon draws right now.  Clemson draws right now.  I loved watching Kansas State and Colorado in my formative years.  But when Kansas State and Colorado fell off, I stopped watching.  When/if Oregon and Clemson fall off, the same.  When Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, Alabama, etc are down.  People tune in to watch them get kicked.

If Florida State and Clemson wallow in an irrelevant conference for a decade, how many non alum fans do they have?  How many non-fans care if they lose?  Am I more apt to watch a Nebraska or Tennessee game than a Clemson or Oregon game right now?  No.  But I certainly will watch them over Iowa or Kentucky or some other mid-tier team in their conference.
Hence the 'rural south' comment.  
Tons of non-alumni fans in the rural south.  FSU's got the 'Redneck Riviera' locked down, no doubt.  
Fish fry and prayers on Sunday for Saint Dabo, too.

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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1401 on: April 30, 2024, 06:20:56 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 29, 2024, 07:33:43 PM
Just click "span start" and set the % years to 80+


Don't much care what happened prior to WWII.
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« Reply #1402 on: April 30, 2024, 06:27:57 AM »

Quote from: ELA on April 29, 2024, 04:31:54 PM

Andrew Dennis, who was committed to MSU, but flipped to Illinois, then apparently won the starting C job coming out of camp as a true freshman (per the Illinois 247 writer), has instead entered the portal, and may be coming back to MSU.

Even when it benefits MSU, I hate this thing.  Seems like neither of his flips are NIL related.  He flipped from MSU to Illinois due to the MSU coaching change, and having an existing relationship with the Illinois staff, and now (as an early enrollee) being a homesick 17 year old who wants to go back home.  So now, a kid who committed to MSU, went through spring camp, finds out he's getting jumped in the depth chart.  A kid who Illinois passed on to take Dennis, could have had that spot all along.

The CBA can't come soon enough
SEC, Big Ten developing plan to share revenue with players in potential landmark change to college athletics - CBSSports.com


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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1403 on: April 30, 2024, 09:17:18 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 30, 2024, 06:20:56 AM
Don't much care what happened prior to WWII.

Lots of games played against teams like "Camp Mabry Motor Pool" and "John Dickinson High School."
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« Reply #1404 on: April 30, 2024, 09:23:00 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 30, 2024, 06:20:56 AM
Don't much care what happened prior to WWII.
Neither of what I said alters the range of time you set.  
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« Reply #1405 on: April 30, 2024, 09:31:18 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 28, 2024, 05:50:31 PM
Idk about Nebraska ever being a big boy again.  Sort of in the same boat as Tennessee, except that UTK borders talent-rich states.  Nebraska doesn't border anything helpful.
This century, by win%:
Texas Tech
Nebraska
Pitt
Tennessee
NC State
South Carolina

Money becoming more important than location, however, so a big change there. No idea what Nebraska's commitment to finances are, either. Also, clearly more parity in football now. You have to be in the top ten or so instead of the top 2 or 3. So more opportunity for a team like Nebraska.
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« Reply #1406 on: April 30, 2024, 09:35:13 AM »
money is not an issue at Nebraska
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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1407 on: April 30, 2024, 07:58:14 PM »
However you vote, please post if you're for a small playoff, larger playoff, or no playoff at all.
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« Reply #1408 on: April 30, 2024, 08:08:05 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2024, 07:58:14 PM
However you vote, please post if you're for a small playoff, larger playoff, or no playoff at all.
No playoff. No BCS. No "we HAVE to get #1 matched up against #2!!!!"

Go back to polls and bowls. 
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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1409 on: April 30, 2024, 09:46:05 PM »
Back to traditional conferences, a lot of teams overall

a focus on regional conferences, traditional conf be damned

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I don't understand.  Traditional conferences were regional.
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Re: The Death of College Football - Realignment, NIL, Portal, Etc.
« Reply #1410 on: April 30, 2024, 10:19:08 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 30, 2024, 09:46:05 PM
Back to traditional conferences, a lot of teams overall

a focus on regional conferences, traditional conf be damned

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I don't understand.  Traditional conferences were regional.
Sorry, I meant to clarify these.

Yes, the traditional conferences were regional, but were intermingled.

The idea of the latter 'regional, tradition be damned' means starting over and doing the conferences regional with little or no overlap.
Think:  Miami, Florida, UCF, USF, FSU, etc all in a conference. 
Maybe a conference with Iowa and ISU, Minnesota and Missouri. 
UW, WSU, Boise, the Oregon schools, Nevada, etc.
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« Reply #1411 on: April 30, 2024, 10:41:45 PM »
ok, I went with traditional

but all 3 Florida teams in the same conference would be good
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« Reply #1412 on: April 30, 2024, 10:44:52 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 30, 2024, 10:41:45 PM
ok, I went with traditional

but all 3 Florida teams in the same conference would be good
They all play each other this year.  
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« Reply #1413 on: April 30, 2024, 10:48:49 PM »
In my wisdom, I voted for the wrong one.

I'd like to have 6 traditional conferences, trim the fat, and ideally, traditional bowls with an as-needed +1 game.  In lieu of that, I'd like a small playoff.
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