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Topic: Urban to Tejas?

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utee94

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Re: Urban to Tejas?
« Reply #294 on: December 04, 2020, 01:29:59 PM »
my low compression Chevy's run just fine on low octane corn juice

beer is meant to be poured into a glass, so bottle or can it shouldn't matter if the bottles don't sit in the warm sun too long.

an extra 10 million would go a long way to pay medical bills if Urban's stress level got a bit too high in Austin

Rumors are he's been offered $12M/year.  Originally 5 years at $60M and then later 7 years at $84M.  Who knows if that's true or not, though.


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« Reply #295 on: December 04, 2020, 01:45:57 PM »
Rumors are he's been offered $12M/year.  Originally 5 years at $60M and then later 7 years at $84M.  Who knows if that's true or not, though.
damn I was on the money in the initial post haha. I said you gotta offer him 5 years, $60 million. Got to give him stupid $ and offer him every single thing he wants, complete control, literally anything he wants- go above and beyond and make him say no. 

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« Reply #296 on: December 04, 2020, 01:50:05 PM »
If he goes anywhere, and to me that's a big if, I think it would be USC.
I don't see that one. Texas is a better job imo. Easily.

Not sure the higher ups at USC really give a shit about the football program. And they don't have the kind of money or support that Texas offers.

UF, OSU - live and breathe football. Which is part of the reason Urban had success there. At USC it's just kind of whatever. I don't think he's going anywhere where the feeling about the football program from the higher ups- is meh- whatever.

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« Reply #297 on: December 04, 2020, 01:51:35 PM »
damn I was on the money in the initial post haha. I said you gotta offer him 5 years, $60 million. Got to give him stupid $ and offer him every single thing he wants, complete control, literally anything he wants- go above and beyond and make him say no.

If rumors are to be believed, that's exactly what has happened.  Supposedly, he's been granted everything he's asked for, including guaranteed assistant 3-yr contracts at whatever amounts he wanted.  If he's not hired, it will be simply because he doesn't want to be the coach at Texas.

But, internet rumors are internet rumors, as always. 

I do think Tom Herman is done, though.  If Texas can't convince Urban to come, then it'll likely be one of the other coaches already mentioned on this thread.

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« Reply #298 on: December 04, 2020, 01:57:50 PM »
If rumors are to be believed, that's exactly what has happened.  Supposedly, he's been granted everything he's asked for, including guaranteed assistant 3-yr contracts at whatever amounts he wanted.  If he's not hired, it will be simply because he doesn't want to be the coach at Texas.

But, internet rumors are internet rumors, as always. 

I do think Tom Herman is done, though.  If Texas can't convince Urban to come, then it'll likely be one of the other coaches already mentioned on this thread.
I read that as well- and I also read the rumors Urban asked them to make major facilities upgrades and Texas said sure thing. 

Higher ups at USC aren't matching the $12m per year, complete control, guaranteed assistant money, or the multi-million dollars in facility upgrades. A) they really don't care that much, and B) they don't have the money.

IF all these rumors are true and Urban doesn't take the Texas job- he's probably never getting into coaching again imo. If you turn down the best offer ever- you probably aren't coaching anymore.

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« Reply #299 on: December 04, 2020, 02:06:00 PM »
https://footballscoop.com/news/the-highest-grossing-football-programs-in-college-football-are/

For 2018-2019 FY. Texas football is #1, grossed $156 million, a whopping $33 million more than the #2 football program- Georgia. Michigan #3 at $122 million, ND #4 at $116 million, and Ohio St #5 at $115 million. B1G with 5 programs in the top 15 and cracking the $90 million mark- M, OSU, Penn State ($100m), Nebraska ($94m), and Wisconsin ($90m).

USC? 4th in the PAC, raking in $50 million. A cool $106 million less than Texas. If it turns into a bidding war and guarantees for assistants/facilities upgrades- USC literally cannot compete. Which is why I think they are not a serious threat. Urban will be at Texas or he'll be in the tv booth and he's never coming back.

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« Reply #300 on: December 04, 2020, 02:12:24 PM »
Tesla CEO Elon Musk put his California houses on the market this year while he was sparring with state lawmakers over Covid-19 restrictions. He’s simultaneously been expanding operations in Texas and cozying up to Republican Gov. Greg Abbott.

Now, several of his close friends and associates say that Musk has told them he’s planning to move to the Lone Star State. The people with knowledge of his plans asked not to be named because their conversations were private.

Musk, the world’s second-wealthiest person behind Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, is in Texas frequently already. He spends most of his time between Austin, where Tesla and his tunnel start-up Boring Company have operations, and a coastal village called Boca Chica, home to a SpaceX facility. SpaceX started operating in Texas in 2003.
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« Reply #301 on: December 04, 2020, 02:15:38 PM »
Tesla CEO Elon Musk put his California houses on the market this year while he was sparring with state lawmakers over Covid-19 restrictions. He’s simultaneously been expanding operations in Texas and cozying up to Republican Gov. Greg Abbott.

Now, several of his close friends and associates say that Musk has told them he’s planning to move to the Lone Star State. The people with knowledge of his plans asked not to be named because their conversations were private.

Musk, the world’s second-wealthiest person behind Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, is in Texas frequently already. He spends most of his time between Austin, where Tesla and his tunnel start-up Boring Company have operations, and a coastal village called Boca Chica, home to a SpaceX facility. SpaceX started operating in Texas in 2003.
Honestly, it makes sense and there have been rumors for years that Tesla was leaving California. If you own a business, it makes zero sense to be located in California. Literally zero. Texas is a MUCH better place to run a business from than California- and it's not close.

Maybe Elon can gift a Model S or a rocket ship to get Urban to come to Texas too?

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« Reply #302 on: December 04, 2020, 02:19:16 PM »
they could be neighbors
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« Reply #303 on: December 04, 2020, 02:30:59 PM »
Honestly, it makes sense and there have been rumors for years that Tesla was leaving California. If you own a business, it makes zero sense to be located in California. Literally zero. Texas is a MUCH better place to run a business from than California- and it's not close.

Maybe Elon can gift a Model S or a rocket ship to get Urban to come to Texas too?
I'm all for it, Musk can certainly afford it.

https://footballscoop.com/news/the-highest-grossing-football-programs-in-college-football-are/

For 2018-2019 FY. Texas football is #1, grossed $156 million, a whopping $33 million more than the #2 football program- Georgia. Michigan #3 at $122 million, ND #4 at $116 million, and Ohio St #5 at $115 million. B1G with 5 programs in the top 15 and cracking the $90 million mark- M, OSU, Penn State ($100m), Nebraska ($94m), and Wisconsin ($90m).

USC? 4th in the PAC, raking in $50 million. A cool $106 million less than Texas. If it turns into a bidding war and guarantees for assistants/facilities upgrades- USC literally cannot compete. Which is why I think they are not a serious threat. Urban will be at Texas or he'll be in the tv booth and he's never coming back.

And that's after about a decade of futility in Longhorn football.  The money being thrown at Urban would be paid back tenfold over the course of his contract, if he were to be as successful as I think he'd probably be.  That kind of ROI makes the decision to hire a no-brainer.

But, he'll obviously have to make the right decision for himself, considering his health and his family's wishes, whatever those might be.

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« Reply #304 on: December 04, 2020, 02:40:42 PM »
Wouldn't shock me if Urbz got his jock on one last time.But Life in the booth is just easy money comparatively


It's like promising yourself you'll never put yourself through another DIY move. Until the biggest house in town opens up. Texas is about the biggest house on the college football block, at least in terms of potential. Meyer's presence alone would get the needle moving with the recruiting and the fundamentals, but longer term, the program will be in better health if the coordinators shoulder more of the burden of leadership. But the whole health excuse I find overblown. UT has the money to cryogenically keep Coach Meyer going.

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« Reply #305 on: December 04, 2020, 03:05:35 PM »

It's like promising yourself you'll never put yourself through another DIY move. Until the biggest house in town opens up. Texas is about the biggest house on the college football block, at least in terms of potential. Meyer's presence alone would get the needle moving with the recruiting and the fundamentals, but longer term, the program will be in better health if the coordinators shoulder more of the burden of leadership. But the whole health excuse I find overblown. UT has the money to cryogenically keep Coach Meyer going.
Coaching is like a drug to these guys. As much as they say they're done they never can put it down. Especially the great ones who really love it. I can't imagine a tv job compares to it. Same thing with great players- with the player though their body betrays them and they just can't do it anymore. Nothing they ever do can match what they got from playing or coaching. 

Best case scenario for Texas, they land Meyer and get 5-6 years and a chip or two out of him, and then Meyer builds a foundation like he did at OSU and has a hand-picked successor to take over and keep it going- Ryan Day is 20-1 as a head coach. 

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« Reply #306 on: December 04, 2020, 03:08:58 PM »
 Ryan Day is 20-1 as a head coach.

Is that good?  That seems good.

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« Reply #307 on: December 04, 2020, 03:09:09 PM »
Honestly, it makes sense and there have been rumors for years that Tesla was leaving California. If you own a business, it makes zero sense to be located in California. Literally zero. Texas is a MUCH better place to run a business from than California- and it's not close.

Maybe Elon can gift a Model S or a rocket ship to get Urban to come to Texas too?
I don't know about "zero" sense. You go where the talent is, and there is a LOT of talent in California. 

Now, if he "moves" Tesla to Texas, it'll be just like the "move" that HPE just announced, where they're moving headquarters to Texas, but still maintaining a campus in San Jose and will retain the employees there. Tesla isn't going to just pull out of their factory in Fremont, and they're not going to fire or force a move for their engineering staff in the Bay Area. They know that all of their best talent will have their PICK of other jobs in the Bay Area, and many won't move.

It makes a lot of sense for companies to move HQ. It makes a lot of sense for companies to diversify geographically to pick up talent in multiple pools. But the Bay Area is still, IMHO, the LARGEST pool of talent for tech, and it's not close. 

 

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