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Zero.
Every college town on up (in population) has a few night clubs and all the 'yes' girls they could ever want.

not many recruits know this about Lincoln NE until they get to campus

or it could be they want to be close to a GF or their mommy

something simple

Meyer was, Saban wasn't. 

Meyer took a 2-9 Bowling Green team to 8-3 his first year. 
Then he took 5-6 Utah to 10-2, then 12-0.  The Utes had finished a season ranked ONCE EVER before Meyer.  They were an anonymous WAC program*.  He took them to the top 5. 
He's exactly who I wanted and we got him.

Saban was different because he didn't immediately improve MSU.  It took him 4-5 years to get them to peak in the top 10.  Idk what MSU was thinking, hiring a guy who was HC at Toledo for 1 season, but there, he took the 5-6 Rockets to 9-2 right away.





*Yes, they were in the MWC in 2003-4, but you wouldn't have been able to correct me back then.

I guess I’d have to know what people consider a “slam dunk?”  Meyer had obviously earned the right to land a big job with what he did at BGSU and Utah.  If that’s considered a slam dunk then, I agree, he was a slam dunk.  If slam dunk is “this guy is going to consistently win 10-12 games and contend for national titles” then I didn’t consider Meyer that.  I just didn’t know.   When Texas got Herman I thought it was a really good hire.  It’s turned out to be nothing special so far.

Damn right.

You're suggesting recruits don't want to play for Miami because being a 20 minute drive from South Beach sucks?  I'm not following.

No. I'm suggesting that Miami being a small private school in Coral Gables- a rich uppity suburb of Miami that is a far cry from a college town- and not in a real college town (like say Gainesville), that has no stadium (they play in an NFL one- far away), and next to zero fan support absolutely hurts their recruiting.

Oh and that drive from the Gables to South Beach isn't 20 mins. Fat chance you're getting over the 395 to South Beach from the Gables in under 30-40 mins- and that's with light traffic. During rush hour- hahaha....good luck- that'll take you an hour 20 plus, could even take you two or three hours depending on accidents- and there are literally always accidents literally every single day.

And none of the women in Miami give a shit about college football players. At all. It's not like other college towns because it's not really a college town. The women in Miami are too busy chasing NFL players, rappers, actors, business moguls, doctors. They love money. They don't give a shit about Jonnhy Football throwing touchdown passes in college.

People in Miami honestly do not give two shits about the Miami Hurricanes. They are like number 10 on the list. Dolphins, Marlins, and Heat are all way more popular. Even when they were winning the stadium was half empty. I've been to plenty of their games when they were good and almost no one was in the stands.

No. I'm suggesting that Miami being a small private school in Coral Gables- a rich uppity suburb of Miami that is a far cry from a college town- and not in a real college town (like say Gainesville), that has no stadium (they play in an NFL one- far away), and next to zero fan support absolutely hurts their recruiting.

Oh and that drive from the Gables to South Beach isn't 20 mins. Fat chance you're getting over the 395 to South Beach from the Gables in under 30-40 mins- and that's with light traffic. During rush hour- hahaha....good luck- that'll take you an hour 20 plus, could even take you two or three hours depending on accidents- and there are literally always accidents literally every single day.

And none of the women in Miami give a shit about college football players. At all. It's not like other college towns because it's not really a college town. The women in Miami are too busy chasing NFL players, rappers, actors, business moguls, doctors. They love money. They don't give a shit about Jonnhy Football throwing touchdown passes in college.

People in Miami honestly do not give two shits about the Miami Hurricanes. They are like number 10 on the list. Dolphins, Marlins, and Heat are all way more popular. Even when they were winning the stadium was half empty. I've been to plenty of their games when they were good and almost no one was in the stands.

I can accept all of this.  

But you're not thinking like an 18 year old.  None of the above is in the hype videos Miami will be showing them.  The girls who happen to bump into recruits on campus seem VERY interested in them.  The places they're told to visit, owned by alumni, LOVE the Canes. 


What is and what they see are worlds apart.  I don't think any of the reality adversely affect Miami recruiting at all, because they're recruiting 18 year olds.


The only thing that hurts Miami recruiting is being an irrelevant football program.  They need an exceptional coach to win with relatively average talent, and "the U" being cool again will bring all the talent.  Bandwagon recruiting. 

not many recruits know this about Lincoln NE until they get to campus

What's that you chaperoning them to the Beer Cart