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Well, of course we're all susceptible to saying Damn Right and Unhuh and the Egg Board makes us fix eggs for breakfast.

Quote from: utee94 on November 27, 2020, 11:35:18 PM

Prove that Herman inherited a roster of 4* and 5*.  This is your assertion.  Prove it.

Based on 247 composite rankings, the 2011-15 classes (from which that 2015 roster would have been comprised)

2011 Texas - #4 nationally, #1 Big XII

2012 Texas - #2 nationally, #1 Big XII
2013 Texas - #17 nationally, #2 Big XII 
2014 Texas - #17 nationally, #2 Big XII 
2015 Texas - #10 nationally, #1 Big XII 

Herman inherited a roster that in terms.of recruiting rankings, was neck and neck with Oklahoma's.  Campbell's was duking it out with Kansas for the Big XII cellar.  So the fact that they are even even over four years , and trending very differently is enough for me.  Campbell might fail at Texas, it seems to be a crapshoot, but I don't see any evidence that he would.

The roster the year before he got there had one five-star, 39 four-stars and 39 three-stars it ranked 11th in total star talent.

The roster his first year had 1, 35 and 39, though I cannot tell you what happened with attrition and how his first class looked. That group was 13th in total star talent.

The roster now has 4, 49 and 30 and ranks fifth in total star talent. It has losses to teams ranked 9th, 28th and 57th in total talent.

(I've stated my reservations about Campbell before, and I believe winning with less talent is at times a different skill than winning with more. That state keeps burping out coaches, so perhaps one of them takes it) 

Bitches a bringing their A-Game 😎

Let's imagine for the moment that the PTBs at Texas are serious about getting UM.  How many people would know if that were the case?

None of us, that's for sure.  It would be worked via back-channels.  

Yup, and probably no one who would post it on the Interwebz.

Might be ten people.

Yup.

Absolutely none of the people that would actually be in the know, would leak any of it to the internet.  

Well it's not a difficult point to make and support.  Utee's argument is basically, "Nuh uh!"

My counterpoint about ISU losing to ULaLa was dismissed as "shit happens" so, well, what else am I supposed to say?

Well it's not a difficult point to make and support.  Utee's argument is basically, "Nuh uh!"

Damn right.

I do agree with that.

Dantonio did more at MSU than Saban did, but I think he would have absolutely floundered Alabama or Texas.  It takes a different skill set to get Iowa State or Michigan State to their ceiling than it does Alabama or Texas.

And then there's that, which I also agree with.

But it's not just Matt Campbell, it's nothing personal.  Pretty much every coach being mentioned as a realistic possibility, doesn't appeal to me all that much, for these reasons, or others.

And it's not like my opinion matters or I'll have any input on the deal.  TPTB will do whatever they're going to do.

I'm certain they've made overtures to Meyer, of that there's no doubt.

Would he be receptive?  Does he want to coach again at all?  If so, would he want to do so at Texas?  There are some good reasons why he might want to, and also some powerful reasons why he might pass on Texas even if he does want to get back into coaching.

On this point I certainly do agree with MDOT-- if you're the Texas AD and are definitely going to let Herman go, then you absolutely must try to work a deal with Urban, before approaching anyone else.  Make him say no.  Make it incredibly difficult for him to say no.

Anyway, it's all just internet rumor and speculation, same as it ever was.