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847badgerfan

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #868 on: August 20, 2022, 09:02:07 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 20, 2022, 09:00:56 AM
OAM evidences a rather odd view of corporations, to me anyway, one that is grounded more in fantasies than reality.  To him, they are all evil, awash in bucks, and able to buy anything on a minor whim.
Just write everything off. Simple.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #869 on: August 20, 2022, 09:03:09 AM »
Ha.  So much for the Egalitarian Big Ten.  I guess "Unequal revenue sharing is what ruins college football" was 2010's mantra, but it's AOK now.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #870 on: August 20, 2022, 10:21:22 AM »
Those three were given a gift. They got stability and they got more money than they were getting prior - even with the reduced share.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #871 on: August 20, 2022, 10:28:33 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2022, 10:21:22 AM
Those three were given a gift. They got stability and they got more money than they were getting prior - even with the reduced share.
Right, I get it.  As long as it's the members of YOUR chosen tribe doing the unequal revenue sharing, it's fine, and in fact it's even good for football.

When somebody else does it, they're greedy and they're ruining college football.

Talking points duly noted.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #872 on: August 20, 2022, 10:35:51 AM »
I really don't know what you're getting at here. 

Other than the SEC, I don't care what other conferences do, so long as it doesn't affect my school of choice. 

I care what the Big Ten does, with a close eye on the Disney conference to see what it's doing.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #873 on: August 20, 2022, 10:39:15 AM »
I'm really just musing, not accusing, and pointing out a duality, my old friend.  And not really your doing, you were never a participant. :)

But I've taken over a decade of realignment-related shit on this message board, much of it from B1G fans, about how unequal revenue sharing is an evil force in college football and the people getting the "more" are the Great Satan.

I just find it amusing that when the B1G does it, all I hear are crickets.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #874 on: August 20, 2022, 12:03:40 PM »
Were they Big Ten fans? Or were they fans of other Big 12 schools that were pointing to the Big Ten as an example, causing you to misremember that you were arguing with Big Ten fans? 
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« Reply #875 on: August 20, 2022, 12:47:28 PM »
Big Ten fans for sure.

The only other B12 fans around were sooners, ags, and huskers.  And all of those schools voted in favor of unequal revenue sharing, every time it came up.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #876 on: August 20, 2022, 05:02:22 PM »
Were the Big Ten fans Nebraska fans? 

I don't really recall anyone else from the Big Ten taking a hard stance on random Big 12 drama. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #877 on: August 20, 2022, 05:08:01 PM »
No they weren't.

Why would Nebraska fans complain about Texas or any other school that pushed for unequal revenue sharing being the reason for instability in the B12, when their own school benefitted from the unequal revenue for its entire tenure in the B12, and voted in favor of continuing unequal revenue sharing every single time it came up for vote?

Like you said, you don't remember it.  Likely because it wasn't directed at you.  
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #878 on: August 20, 2022, 07:03:55 PM »
yup, Nebraska left the Big 12 which was unequal 

and gladly joined the Big Ten which at the time was unequal

Texas was blamed
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #879 on: August 20, 2022, 07:19:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 20, 2022, 09:00:56 AM
OAM evidences a rather odd view of corporations, to me anyway, one that is grounded more in fantasies than reality.  To him, they are all evil, awash in bucks, and able to buy anything on a minor whim.
Wow, I sound like an idiot.

Evil?  No.  They take advantage of a certain half of the country that holds corporations as pious things and enjoy a gov't financial attitude that's basically one big, long financial blowjob.

Yes, that financial gov't bj does make them awash in bucks, except for tax time, in which they're poorer than the homeless tent city down the street from me.  They don't make any money, simply create wealth.  That's called semantics, and it enables corporations that are worth more than most countries pay less taxes than you or I do. 

Corporation:  dick :: gov't : mouth

They can't buy anything on a minor whim, but thanks for putting those words in my mouth.  But some months out, if Disney wanted to buy something, it would put into place a series of actions that would enable it to buy just about anything it wanted.  You could probably count on one hand the things Disney couldn't acquire in its industry if it really wanted to and had time to plan it out and make it happen.

But I'm an idiot. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #880 on: August 20, 2022, 08:04:55 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 20, 2022, 08:27:58 AM
If USC and UCLA are getting full shares from Day 1 then I'd say they have a legitimate complaint.

They are not. All new members of the B1G staring with MSU came into the conference on a probationary status, and not full members. When PSU was added this also included a reduce portion of the media rights until they became full fledge members. I read an article several years ago that Nebraska was now a full member, and assumed that the other two have been upgraded to full status as well.

EDIT: Did even you read the article?!? Rutgers is getting a reduced shared because upon entry they took out a 50 million dollar loan from the B1G, and the reduced amount is to pay back said loan. There is no uneven revenue sharing in the B1G, both Rutgers and Maryland are full members in status and getting an equal share of the media money.

EDIT 2: I stand corrected on the USC and UCLA probationary status. FOX has requested as part of the media deal that both school enter as full media partners in 2024. (Even if they are probationary members of the conference in other areas.) If FOX is writing the checks, kinda hard to say no, we are going keep doing it the old way. Curious, PSU isn't complaining about getting a reduce media contract for their 3 years on probation....
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #881 on: August 20, 2022, 09:05:45 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 20, 2022, 07:19:23 PM
Wow, I sound like an idiot.

Evil?  No.  They take advantage of a certain half of the country that holds corporations as pious things and enjoy a gov't financial attitude that's basically one big, long financial blowjob.

Yes, that financial gov't bj does make them awash in bucks, except for tax time, in which they're poorer than the homeless tent city down the street from me.  They don't make any money, simply create wealth.  That's called semantics, and it enables corporations that are worth more than most countries pay less taxes than you or I do. 

Corporation:  dick :: gov't : mouth

They can't buy anything on a minor whim, but thanks for putting those words in my mouth.  But some months out, if Disney wanted to buy something, it would put into place a series of actions that would enable it to buy just about anything it wanted.  You could probably count on one hand the things Disney couldn't acquire in its industry if it really wanted to and had time to plan it out and make it happen.

But I'm an idiot.
Nothing magical about corporations. They do in fact go out of business all the time. 

They play by the rules the govt created, and continue to create. 


Besides, does the govt really need any more tax money ?  They waste most of it anyways. 
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