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847badgerfan

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #784 on: August 07, 2022, 11:11:00 AM »
That would be great.
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« Reply #785 on: August 07, 2022, 11:12:20 AM »
Also, to be fair, if UW were in the East they would not have the record they do. They can't beat OSU, and PSU has had their number.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #786 on: August 08, 2022, 09:46:48 AM »
I'd take the teams out that have under average attendance and income.  Simple.
Using that criteria, football attendence, for the SEC,  I am guessing the 6 expelled would be

Vandy,  Mizzou, Miss St, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Ark

So the final 10 would be

FL, S Car, Ga, Aub, Bama, Tenn, LSU,  Tex A&M, Tex, Ok

If tradition or basketball were a factor, then Kentucky would probably replace South Carolina  but the rule is we should ignore that (I think)


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« Reply #787 on: August 08, 2022, 10:05:59 AM »
Using that criteria, football attendence, for the SEC,  I am guessing the 6 expelled would be

Vandy,  Mizzou, Miss St, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Ark

So the final 10 would be

FL, S Car, Ga, Aub, Bama, Tenn, LSU,  Tex A&M, Tex, Ok

If tradition or basketball were a factor, then Kentucky would probably replace South Carolina  but the rule is we should ignore that (I think)


Kentucky and Arky draw pretty well, no?

Man, talking about this is so weird.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #788 on: August 08, 2022, 10:39:00 AM »
Kentucky and Arky draw pretty well, no?
Yes, in any other conference besides the SEC, Kentucky and Arkansas would be in the top 10 easy.  Even Mizzou, Miss ST, and Ole Miss would be in the top 10 of many conferences.  But the SEC is a whole another level.

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« Reply #789 on: August 08, 2022, 11:24:35 AM »
If you really think about it nobody has to kick anybody out, the teams that are going to evolve will simply form a new conference with partners of their choosing, pick a name that pays homage to the old one or whatever floats your boat, and jump ship.  The old teams will remain in the old conference and the new teams will have all the money and TV deals like they want.  They can achieve it in any number of ways.  It's going to happen eventually, the Vanderbilts of the world can only ride the coat-tails for so long.  

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« Reply #790 on: August 08, 2022, 12:13:28 PM »
That makes me sad.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #791 on: August 08, 2022, 12:16:18 PM »
Vandy can do pretty well in baseball and sometimes basketball.  Kentucky does pretty well at the latter, if we count other sports.

An specific football league could be interesting, where the conferences stay the same for other sports.  But really, do we want our teams facing a top 50 or so football team every week?

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #792 on: August 08, 2022, 01:23:18 PM »
Vandy can do pretty well in baseball and sometimes basketball.  Kentucky does pretty well at the latter, if we count other sports.


Nobody really cares about baseball, and a lot of people don't care about basketball.  For college teams.  Without looking I bet the CFP draws 4x the audience the NCAA final 4 does.  

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« Reply #793 on: August 08, 2022, 01:29:05 PM »
Nobody really cares about baseball, and a lot of people don't care about basketball.  For college teams.  Without looking I bet the CFP draws 4x the audience the NCAA final 4 does. 
Well I just checked and proved myself very wrong about BB.  BB draws as many viewers as the CFP does for the final 4.  

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/ncaa-march-madness-final-kansas-unc-turner-tv-viewership-basketball/

https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2022/01/2022-college-football-playoff-national-championship-nets-22-6-million-viewers-cables-top-telecast-in-two-years/#:~:text=The%20New%20Year's%20Six%20and,were%20on%20New%20Year's%20Day.

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« Reply #794 on: August 08, 2022, 01:44:56 PM »
I'm sure CFB destroys CBB during the regular season.  The CBB tournament is still pretty magical, so I'm not surprised that it compares favorably there.

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« Reply #795 on: August 08, 2022, 11:05:06 PM »
If you really think about it nobody has to kick anybody out, the teams that are going to evolve will simply form a new conference with partners of their choosing, pick a name that pays homage to the old one or whatever floats your boat, and jump ship.  The old teams will remain in the old conference and the new teams will have all the money and TV deals like they want.  They can achieve it in any number of ways.  It's going to happen eventually, the Vanderbilts of the world can only ride the coat-tails for so long. 
but, it's not really a "conference" in the traditional sense - it's just football scheduling and a football only TV contract
nothing academic or women's sports or non-revenue sports such as wrestling or baseball

it could happen because of the obscene amount of money, but the regents and the lawyers and the title IX folks will go nutz along with the Governor of Cali
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #796 on: August 09, 2022, 07:52:10 AM »
but, it's not really a "conference" in the traditional sense - it's just football scheduling and a football only TV contract
But isn’t that where we already are?  With WV being in the XII and usc and UCLA going to the B1G I think that ship sailed long ago. 

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #797 on: August 09, 2022, 07:55:50 AM »
I recall thinking Mizzou was a weird addition to the SEC on geographic grounds.  But whatever, man, it's $$$$$$$$$.

We had too many Marys and not enough Williams.

You'd get fired saying that today?

 

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