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CatsbyAZ

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #756 on: August 06, 2022, 11:43:45 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 06, 2022, 10:09:04 AM
I'd guess UCLA/USC attendance figures will pick up playing in the B1G, in part B1G fans will go out there I suspect, or live there.  We obviously have a ton of B1G fans locally who would show up for games between say UGA and Wisconsin, even GaTech and Wisconsin, and Tech doesn't usually sell out unless they play UGA/Clemson.


UCLA attendance won't ever return to what it once was. They haven't sold out in years and it's too little too little/too late to turn the negative momentum around. Plus, joining the Big Ten will be used as an excuse to raise tickets prices on games nobody was going to anyway, driving the demand down even more. The whole deal was only about gobbling up the LA media market, regardless whether that media market turns on the TV. They won't - they want to watch TMZ, the Dodgers, Telemundo, and Ted Lasso.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #757 on: August 06, 2022, 12:01:27 PM »
They could sell out their stadium to some visiting Big Ten fan bases. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #758 on: August 06, 2022, 12:12:10 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 06, 2022, 12:01:27 PM
They could sell out their stadium to some visiting Big Ten fan bases.

Only until the novelty wears off after a season or two. It will only take one trip to LA for Big Ten fans to decidedly spend their travel money on the usual rivals after realizing Pasadena is ripping them off.

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 06, 2022, 07:31:32 AM

I mean, I don't mind dropping NU. Chicago just isn't the road trip it used to be, now that you cannot go out at night.

Northwestern isn't going anywhere. They are a Big Ten charter member.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #759 on: August 06, 2022, 12:17:30 PM »
The Rose Bowl might extend the novelty beyond a year or two, but maybe not. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #760 on: August 06, 2022, 12:44:54 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 06, 2022, 12:12:10 PM
Only until the novelty wears off after a season or two. It will only take one trip to LA for Big Ten fans to decidedly spend their travel money on the usual rivals after realizing Pasadena is ripping them off.

Northwestern isn't going anywhere. They are a Big Ten charter member.
Does that even matter anymore?

Illinois, Purdue and Minnesota are also charters (along with Michigan, Wisconsin and Chicago).
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #761 on: August 06, 2022, 01:00:26 PM »
What percentage of revenue comes from tickets and concessions versus TV?

Donations are probably a larger thing at many schools.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #762 on: August 06, 2022, 01:57:12 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 06, 2022, 12:12:10 PM
Only until the novelty wears off after a season or two. It will only take one trip to LA for Big Ten fans to decidedly spend their travel money on the usual rivals after realizing Pasadena is ripping them off.
Fans of Big Ten schools will boost UCLA attendance without anyone boarding a plane.  Part of the reason you want a market with 18 million people in it is that your fanbases are already there, by default.
Plenty of locals will suddenly get the chance to drive to see their team in the Rose Bowl now.  That's massive.  
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #763 on: August 06, 2022, 02:01:42 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 06, 2022, 12:44:54 PM
Does that even matter anymore?

Illinois, Purdue and Minnesota are also charters (along with Michigan, Wisconsin and Chicago).
Any charter member of any major conference getting booted would be unprecedented in the current environment.  So it matters.....until it doesn't.  The last time a charter member of any conference left was what...back in the 60s?  Before that? 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #764 on: August 06, 2022, 02:02:38 PM »
Leaving is more common, getting booted?  I don't know of one.  SMU I guess.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #765 on: August 06, 2022, 02:05:37 PM »
Temple got booted as an original member of the Big East "football conference" 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #766 on: August 06, 2022, 02:14:32 PM »
Temple was booted from a 13-year old conference.  Northwestern has been in the Big Ten since 1896.  
Not exactly comparable.  
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #767 on: August 06, 2022, 04:12:39 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 06, 2022, 02:14:32 PM
Temple was booted from a 13-year old conference.  Northwestern has been in the Big Ten since 1896. 
Not exactly comparable. 
Plus Temple was a football-only member of the Big East and not a full member when it was booted from Big East football.

I agree that no conference will kick out a full member.  It just doesn't happen. So I know the talk of kicking out any team from the Big Ten is silly,.  But if somebody else asks the question, if you had to scale down the Big Ten to ten teams and throw out tradition and academics,  which teams would you pick,  I can't resist.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #768 on: August 06, 2022, 04:16:20 PM »
I found this for UGA 2019-2020 (preCOVID):

Some key revenue numbers from the report included:
• $38.6 million from ticket sales
• $64.6 million in contributions
• $38.4 million in media rights
• $14.2 million sponsorships and licensing
• $8.1 million in SEC bowl generated revenue

So, the largest source of funding is contributions, ticket sales and media rights are the same figure.  

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #769 on: August 06, 2022, 07:23:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 06, 2022, 02:14:32 PM
Temple was booted from a 13-year old conference.  Northwestern has been in the Big Ten since 1896. 
Not exactly comparable. 
Of course it's unrealistic. It's a hypothetical, and this is a message board. 

Who would the SEC boot in order to get back to ten if the criteria were money instead of tradition? 
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