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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #658 on: July 27, 2022, 05:56:05 PM »
they have lost their mind
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« Reply #659 on: July 27, 2022, 06:03:00 PM »
Dennis Dodd lost his mind, but he may have been standing too close to Jenny Dell

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« Reply #660 on: July 27, 2022, 07:47:16 PM »
"Targeting" and "leaving the door open" are 2 verrrrrry different things.  
Yay, clickbait!!!
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« Reply #661 on: July 27, 2022, 07:51:37 PM »
"Targeting" and "leaving the door open" are 2 verrrrrry different things. 
Yay, clickbait!!!

There's zero doubt in my mind that they're targeting one of those 4 schools-- to come along with Notre Dame.

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« Reply #662 on: July 27, 2022, 09:32:23 PM »
There's zero doubt in my mind that they're targeting one of those 4 schools-- to come along with Notre Dame.
agree 100%. My guess is their wet dream would be Washington or Stanford and of course Notre Dame. 

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« Reply #663 on: July 28, 2022, 01:13:05 AM »

https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1552303716409253889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1552303716409253889%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fdennisdoddcbs%2Fstatus%2F1552303716409253889%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc255Etfw257Ctwcamp255Etweetembed257Ctwterm255E1552303716409253889257Ctwgr255E257Ctwcon255Es1_26ref_url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Ftexas%2Fboard%2F21%2FContents%2Ftoday-on-twitter-for-7272022-190580913%2F%3Fpage%3D1

I read the article and it said something about these programs, having a lesser value, would receive a smaller share of the pie than the other Big Ten teams because they dilute revenue rather than adding to the revenue. However, the article concluded that in a sense they would find the Big Ten a safe haven, and join despite their small share of the pie.
I am not sure I believe the Big Ten would allow unequal sharing of TV revenue, because if it did, smaller market teams like Iowa, Nebraska, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, and Maryland could also find their share decrease while Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, UCLA, and USC rake in more. Northwestern is in a large TV market but I doubt they attract viewers when playing small market teams, or even bigger market teams. Would small market programs vote against their interest to allow such a model to creep into the Big Ten? These four schools make sense only if revenues divide equally, and perhaps, only if Notre Dame comes onboard. I doubt small market schools will agree to unequal revenue sharing, and if they do, competition in college football will fall apart even more than it already has.
Big Ten Bylaws require 70% of members to approve admission of a new entrant. A note on the Big Ten expansion vote - Big Ten Blog- ESPN I don't believe the unequal revenue sharing model will come to pass.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #664 on: July 28, 2022, 01:29:38 AM »
Is Cal worth more than the legal battle to just let UCLA go?

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« Reply #665 on: July 28, 2022, 08:36:01 AM »
Is Cal worth more than the legal battle to just let UCLA go?

Not sure exactly what you mean here?

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« Reply #666 on: July 28, 2022, 08:42:43 AM »
Not sure exactly what you mean here?
I *think* he's saying that if Newsome/California are going to fight in court over UCLA, maybe we should just pass on UCLA and take Cal instead. 

I don't think that works though because I think Cal (UC-Berkley) is also a state school so the same issues would attach. 

Stanford, however, is private.

I like UCLA, but if Newsome/California are going to make it difficult, we might be better off taking Stanford instead and keeping our options open beyond that. 

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« Reply #667 on: July 28, 2022, 08:53:52 AM »
I *think* he's saying that if Newsome/California are going to fight in court over UCLA, maybe we should just pass on UCLA and take Cal instead.

I don't think that works though because I think Cal (UC-Berkley) is also a state school so the same issues would attach.

Stanford, however, is private.

I like UCLA, but if Newsome/California are going to make it difficult, we might be better off taking Stanford instead and keeping our options open beyond that.
OK I thought that's what he was saying.

The articles I've read say that the governor can't legally do anything about it, nor can the state leg.  Decisions regarding athletic conference affiliation aren't under their purview.  The appropriate people with proper authority were all notified and permitted the move.

Their only real move would be to do something drastic like threaten to withhold state funding to the university, but that would require a majority of state politicians to vote in favor of such a measure, and I am highly doubtful California politicians care enough about the issue to burn a considerable amount of political capital on something that's pretty inconsequential in the grand scheme.   They've got MUCH bigger fish to fry in that state.

I recognize all of this, because it's exactly how it played out in the state of Texas.  There's really nothing anyone can do about it, by and large, universities are allowed to make these kinds of decisions on their own.

As has been stated before, this is really just a state governor grandstanding to prove he's "doing something about it" whilst keeping his eye on running for higher office.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #668 on: July 28, 2022, 08:57:38 AM »
He can, and will, make some noise, and perhaps appoint a committee to investigate something, and then whoosh.

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« Reply #669 on: July 28, 2022, 09:01:11 AM »
He can, and will, make some noise, and perhaps appoint a committee to investigate something, and then whoosh.
Sure he'll bloviate about it, as politicians do.

And in the end, UCLA will be in the B1G, for better or worse.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #670 on: July 28, 2022, 09:04:47 AM »
I'd leave UCLA out and just add ND with USC
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« Reply #671 on: July 28, 2022, 09:06:50 AM »
I'd leave UCLA out and just add ND with USC
Too late for that.

Notre Dame will always be a target, I'd say adding Stanford and ND as the next two would be ideal for the B1G.

 

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