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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #616 on: July 19, 2022, 03:46:45 PM »
I think I'd rather play the new guys and lose, but set things up for next year than play the returning guys and win to get some artificial ranking.  Obviously, I'm not trying to kick out seniors that want to play, but it can be better for the team next year if they sit out.
the bowl practices are more important than the game

a kid that hasn't starter all season might look great in the bowl game or not
really doesn't have much to say about the future performance the following reg season - I mean it could but.........

kinda like the redshirt frosh that dazzles in the spring game.  Doesn't mean too much in the fall in many cases
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« Reply #617 on: July 19, 2022, 03:52:44 PM »
I think the players have fun also.  Many have not traveled that much and it's a neat experience for them to go to Dallas or Miami or Memphis or Nashville and get feted.

And it's unique to CFB.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #618 on: July 19, 2022, 04:00:45 PM »
yup, a nice reward for the players

and an extra game for the fans vs a decent opponent
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« Reply #619 on: July 19, 2022, 04:21:31 PM »
King Barry put a lot of emphasis on winning bowl games. I don't think Bielema did as much. Chryst seems to.


In USC news, UW lost a prized recruit to them last night. Thought UW for sure until a couple of days ago.

LB Tackitt Curtis. I guess the kid wanted to play in the B1G.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #620 on: July 19, 2022, 04:31:03 PM »
I've gotten so old and disillusioned my approach to life is more tuned to finding the good in a thing and enjoying it for what it is.  Or abandoning it entirely.  I gave up wartching the NBA long ago, and then college bball, and then the NFL.  I do watch a good bit of MLB and CFB.  As long as I enjoy it, I'll watch, and if they mangle it to where I don't I won't.  Simple as that.  I have other stuff I can do.


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« Reply #621 on: July 19, 2022, 04:53:00 PM »
Same here, almost exactly.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #622 on: July 19, 2022, 06:29:37 PM »
Ranking all 69 Power 5 schools by college sports value - Sports Illustrated

Another list, a bit crude as the criteria are not weighted, but I guess it's roughly OK.  Ish.

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« Reply #623 on: July 19, 2022, 07:26:05 PM »
Is viewership #1?  How would you rank the categories?  Maybe I'll find some time to do a weighted one, if we can agree on the varying importance.
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« Reply #624 on: July 19, 2022, 08:40:15 PM »
Ranking all 69 Power 5 schools by college sports value - Sports Illustrated

Another list, a bit crude as the criteria are not weighted, but I guess it's roughly OK.  Ish.
This ranking has Kansas ranked 2nd last which tells me it is weighted heavily based on recent football sucesss.  Cause every discussion I have seen regarding realignment has had Kansas ranked higher than Kansas St and Iowa St in the pecking order.  This tells me that fans consider Kansas football issues are just a temporary issue that can be easily solved with the right coach.  Kind of like Matt Campbell has helped Iowa State.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #625 on: July 19, 2022, 09:03:43 PM »
It's SI, I wouldn't take it to the bank.  It seems obvious to me that the criteria should be weighted, somehow.

Akademicks?  Schmoo.

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« Reply #626 on: July 19, 2022, 10:22:44 PM »
ku vs ksu is hoops vs football
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #627 on: July 20, 2022, 12:09:56 AM »
King Barry put a lot of emphasis on winning bowl games. I don't think Bielema did as much. Chryst seems to.


In USC news, UW lost a prized recruit to them last night. Thought UW for sure until a couple of days ago.

LB Tackitt Curtis. I guess the kid wanted to play in the B1G.
Haven't been following recruiting an buddy's son said so did the OSU but he didn't know who.Hopefully it was the same guy hate to think they got 2 prized recruits frommus good guys



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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #628 on: July 20, 2022, 08:04:58 AM »
I think the SI ranking is probably decently close despite some flaws, any ranking would have flaws.  I wouldn't say being 11 is any different than 10 or 8 or 14 really.

The heaviest weighting should be TV appeal, that is where the money lives.  Academics are fine and dandy of course but doesn't mean much moneywise.




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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #629 on: July 21, 2022, 01:07:17 PM »
California Gov. Gavin Newsom is calling for UCLA to give a public explanation on the school's decision to leave the Pac-12 for the Big Ten alongside crosstown rival USC in 2024. Newsom contends that UCLA, a member of the nine-campus University of California system, owes it to the public to explain how the realignment decision will better its student-athletes in addition to how it will maintain long-lasting traditions and partnerships, such as that with fellow Pac-12 member UC Berkley.

"The first duty of every public university is to the people, especially students," Newsom said at a University of California Board of Regents meeting Wednesday, via the Los Angeles Times. "UCLA must clearly explain to the public how this deal will improve the experience for all its student-athletes, will honor its century-old partnership with UC Berkeley, and will preserve the histories, rivalries, and traditions that enrich our communities."

Newsom, who oversees and appoints the University of California system board of regents, previously said in an interview with FOX 11 Los Angeles that UCLA officials gave no advance warning to the board of regents regarding the Big Ten decision. Newsom described the decision as being "done in isolation" and without "oversight or support" from the regents.
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