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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #504 on: July 15, 2022, 11:28:44 AM »
Academically I'm sure Texas would have preferred the B1G but if we focus on academics then Oklahoma couldn't have come along and they'd have been left with no long-term in conference rivals.

Texas' most frequent opponents:

  • Oklahoma, joining SEC with them
  • aTm, SEC
  • Baylor, B12
  • Rice, CUSA
  • TCU, B12
  • Arkansas, SEC
  • SMU, AAC
  • TxTech, B12
  • OkSU, B12
  • Houston, B12
  • KSU, B12

Their most frequent B1G opponent is Nebraska with 14 games. 10 of the 14 were played while both were in the B12 including three B12CG's.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #505 on: July 15, 2022, 11:46:12 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 15, 2022, 11:28:44 AM
Academically I'm sure Texas would have preferred the B1G but if we focus on academics then Oklahoma couldn't have come along and they'd have been left with no long-term in conference rivals.

Texas' most frequent opponents:

  • Oklahoma, joining SEC with them
  • aTm, SEC
  • Baylor, B12
  • Rice, CUSA
  • TCU, B12
  • Arkansas, SEC
  • SMU, AAC
  • TxTech, B12
  • OkSU, B12
  • Houston, B12
  • KSU, B12

Their most frequent B1G opponent is Nebraska with 14 games. 10 of the 14 were played while both were in the B12 including three B12CG's.

Right.  The geographical and historical rivalry fit for Texas is clearly in the SEC, especially with Oklahoma moving at the same time.

And the Texas administration views conference affiliation as being athletically focused, for the most part.  There's really no premium placed on "academic fit."  Texas has many academic partnerships and affiliations that are not related to athletic conference participation.

Doesn't change my opinion that I would have enjoyed playing in the B1G.  But, nobody asks me about these things.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #506 on: July 15, 2022, 12:00:29 PM »
I would think any academic associations could or would be independent of football conferences, but maybe not.  

I think money is the primary consideration, with a few things like "tradition" coming in about tenth.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #507 on: July 15, 2022, 01:30:12 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 15, 2022, 11:46:12 AM
Right.  The geographical and historical rivalry fit for Texas is clearly in the SEC, especially with Oklahoma moving at the same time.

And the Texas administration views conference affiliation as being athletically focused, for the most part.  There's really no premium placed on "academic fit."  Texas has many academic partnerships and affiliations that are not related to athletic conference participation.

Doesn't change my opinion that I would have enjoyed playing in the B1G.  But, nobody asks me about these things.
I would also guess, you could give your view, that the average Texas alum/fan doesn't much care about losing the "rivalries" with Baylor, Rice, TCU, SMU, TxTech, OkSU, Houston, and KSU.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #508 on: July 15, 2022, 01:35:53 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 15, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
I would also guess, you could give your view, that the average Texas alum/fan doesn't much care about losing the "rivalries" with Baylor, Rice, TCU, SMU, TxTech, OkSU, Houston, and KSU.
when youve seen one upside down Horns sign youve seen them all

I will miss Texas Tech and the Cowboys and because we dont play Rice, SMU or Houston every year they wont be missed but we probably will continue to play them occasionally
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #509 on: July 15, 2022, 01:45:23 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 15, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
I would also guess, you could give your view, that the average Texas alum/fan doesn't much care about losing the "rivalries" with Baylor, Rice, TCU, SMU, TxTech, OkSU, Houston, and KSU.
Right.  How many schools view tOSU as a "rival?"  And then, how many schools does tOSU view as a "rival?"
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #510 on: July 15, 2022, 01:50:37 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 15, 2022, 01:35:53 PM
when youve seen one upside down Horns sign youve seen them all

I will miss Texas Tech and the Cowboys and because we dont play Rice, SMU or Houston every year they wont be missed but we probably will continue to play them occasionally
Agree I've liked playing the oSu Cowboys, there have been some classic games between our two schools over the past two decades.  And I have plenty of friends that went to Texas Tech, or have kids going to Texas Tech.  I like those games and I'll miss them.

We haven't played Houston much historically, they were a late add to the SWC and then they didn't make it into the B12.

I don't think all that much about TCU, I know maybe one person that went there.  Same for SMU.

We tend to set up 2-1 with Rice and I expect that will continue.

And I hope we never play Baylor again, in anything, ever.  The single greatest benefit to leaving the B12 is getting away from that slime-infested cesspool.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #511 on: July 15, 2022, 02:19:50 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 15, 2022, 08:57:49 AM
I just don't imagine ND joining the SEC

it's either independence with a hook to the ACC, or Big Ten

and I'm sure Finebaum doesn't like it
Yeah, the Irish probably don't want to go 3-9 ever year.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #512 on: July 15, 2022, 02:20:14 PM »
Texas should sack Sark and take Aranda away from Baylor.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #513 on: July 15, 2022, 03:45:17 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 15, 2022, 02:20:14 PM
Texas should sack Sark and take Aranda away from Baylor.
Sure why not.  There's a lot of things Texas should do, and/or should have done.  What a long string of crappy coaching hires, it's truly mind boggling.  Maybe someday we'll get it right.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #514 on: July 15, 2022, 04:03:00 PM »
Aranda's next stop will be a helmet. May as well be Texas.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #515 on: July 15, 2022, 04:51:28 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 15, 2022, 03:45:17 PM
Sure why not.  There's a lot of things Texas should do, and/or should have done.  What a long string of crappy coaching hires, it's truly mind boggling.  Maybe someday we'll get it right.
Just remember DKRs 1st year was not good

Im not a Sark fan yet but we'll see what this year brings
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #516 on: July 15, 2022, 06:42:16 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on July 15, 2022, 11:28:44 AM
Academically I'm sure Texas would have preferred the B1G but if we focus on academics then Oklahoma couldn't have come along and they'd have been left with no long-term in conference rivals.
Just seeing this while I agree with most of your takes i don't this one.It looks smashing in print make one point clear these conferences are getting realigned for football and ratings = MULAH. That has nothing to do with Prep courses/curriculum/SATs/GPAs/Admissions/Jello Shots/Beer pong or anything else.Like Jimmy Johnson use to say "Ya but can he play"
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #517 on: July 15, 2022, 07:16:32 PM »
agree with Nubbz

UNL in got

about the same football history and academics

just w/o the noodlin chicks and the rednecks
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